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Devlet Bahçeli: "The President should have two deputies.

One should be Kurdish and the other Alawi. (Ismail Saymaz)


MHP is considering launching an Alawi peace process. Devlet Bahçeli is financing an Alawi community center (Cemevi). The inauguration ceremony might be held on the anniversary of the republic.
 
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Devlet Bahçeli: "The President should have two deputies.

One should be Kurdish and the other Alawi. (Ismail Saymaz)


MHP is considering launching an Alawi peace process. Devlet Bahçeli is financing an Alawi community center (Cemevi). The inauguration ceremony might be held on the anniversary of the republic.
Does he mean in Turkey or Syria?
 

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Devlet Bahçeli: "The President should have two deputies.

One should be Kurdish and the other Alawi. (Ismail Saymaz)


MHP is considering launching an Alawi peace process. Devlet Bahçeli is financing an Alawi community center (Cemevi). The inauguration ceremony might be held on the anniversary of the republic.
Dumb move,this only creates divide.
I wonder what Alpaslan Türkes would have done with this guy?
 

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Turkish politics is mad.
Turkish politics has moved to another level, I’m afraid.
Now it’s nothing more than a small merry band made of distant cliques driven by one single goal. Allocating the wealth of nation for their own end and shaking hands on dividing, trenching out people and destroying the country at the end. And yet, despite their small numbers, they dominate the entire populace in blocks while the latter sheepishly submit their existence to them in return.

It’s like a plot from 70s Hammer horror films where the entire town was put under the spell of a fiendish cult and worshipping their masters.
The metaphor irks you think but it’s so clear and visible.
 

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Turkish politics has moved to another level, I’m afraid.
Now it’s nothing more than a small merry band made of distant cliques driven by one single goal. Allocating the wealth of nation for their own end and shaking hands on dividing, trenching out people and destroying the country at the end. And yet, despite their small numbers, they dominate the entire populace in blocks while the latter sheepishly submit their existence to them in return.

It’s like a plot from 70s Hammer horror films where the entire town was put under the spell of a fiendish cult and worshipping their masters.
The metaphor irks you think but it’s so clear and visible.
Sadly, I think this was always going to be the result of the Republic, given that the Ottoman sultans spent the entire 1800s combating this type of short-sighted greed by local popular rulers who constantly tried to hollow out the state.

Turkish culture requires a constant unifying force to counter the population's self-destructive impulses. During the 1800s, it was the Ottoman sultans and the institutions they were trying to create. Still, after the republic was founded, it was the military, which in turn was a by-product of the Ottoman Sultan's legacy.

But do to the very nature of the government, Atatürk founded a republic, which put the military in a subordinate role, thus, to the very force that it was established to resist.

The biggest irony of Turkish politics is that AKP praises the Ottoman Empire will destroy its most important legacy left to the Turkish people, all the while cursing Atatürk, whose decisions paved the way for them to get control of the very state apparatus and run around unchecked.
 

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Turkish culture requires a constant unifying force to counter the population's self-destructive impulses.
Every culture, for that matter, is a bit self destructive for there are other attachments such as religion, ethnicity even economical modes.

That need of Turkish culture, however, was met by a simple solution called nation state. It worked. It was the bonding element of an entire nation, unlike ummah, millet system of Ottomans where was bound to doom in the end. And it did collapse. It worked until recently.
Until an artificial cry designed for division that didn‘t rise from the ranks of population. This not a natural demand that outburst and shake the state to its core. This is not a push as a result of natural dynamics of people.
No my friend. This is fait accompli!
 

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Devlet Bahçeli: "The President should have two deputies.

One should be Kurdish and the other Alawi. (Ismail Saymaz)


MHP is considering launching an Alawi peace process. Devlet Bahçeli is financing an Alawi community center (Cemevi). The inauguration ceremony might be held on the anniversary of the republic.
This is literally the Lebanese model; are these people just plain traitors or are they that stupid? Or do they think nobody realizes where all of this comes from?
 

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This is literally the Lebanese model; are these people just plain traitors or are they that stupid? Or do they think nobody realizes where all of this comes from?
Stupid? No. Traitor? Yes.

Bahceli especially would have been better of just coming out as gay instead of this. Then again who knows what kinda blackmail they have on him.

These plans and projects will fail either way. They achieve nothing but generate exactly the opposite from what these treasonous snakes want it to.

It also finally shows certain passive Turks how the people they call "siblings" view them.

Younger Turks are just getting more and more nationalistic. 10 years ago a Turkish leftist would have never shot against a certain party or group, now even they started talking about them negatively.

Good. This country needs to wake up and realize how many enemies it has within and that nothing will change as long as they don't take back control of it.
 

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The idiot should understand that Alaviths are religional group unlike the Kurds! ( Nonetheless most of Kurds identifies themselves as Türk)
So matching Turks against Alaviths is fatal error.

We all Turks had been Alaviths in Anatolia. Look at Balkans , in 15 century there were Bektashis.



I dunno if even answering such idiotic proposal would be more idiotic than proposal.
 

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