the key part of republic is constitution which currently ignored by those who are in power constitution especially the first 4 item clearly forbite what currently Erdogan is suggesting not only that constitution reject the even these thing be suggested!
The Constitution, like all constitutions, is nothing but a piece of paper that we have seen all across the world. When governments hollow out institutions, constitutions no longer hold much meaning. This is a sad truth, even the United States which worships it's constitution is seeing it ignored or diliberetly misinterprited.
I'm a constitutional monarchist because the monarchy acts as the embodiment of the constitution in those systems, which fights against unchecked self-destructive populism. This is why today's monarchies are the least corrupt nations on earth; the shit absolute monarchies in the Middle East are less corrupt than their republic counterparts.
yeah the time when one man could do anything they like, like the time of abdul hamid ii who give also of powers to none turks under the name of pan Islamism were those people use it for their own nationalist agenda to divide the empire more as well as loosing so much land and being absolutely incompetent until he was overthrown by young turks and put stop to his pan islamism madness
Abdul Hamid II was not a great leader. Still, it wasn't he who lost those territories, but the Young Ottomans movement, which was created by idiots who thought that they could keep the empire together by transforming the empire into a democratic state while ignoring the fact that the minorities far outnumbered the Turkish population.
They lost the war to Russia, and when the Russian army was at the gates of Istanbul, Abdul Hamid II made a deal with Britain and France to save what was left of the empire.
Additionally, the context of Ottoman Islamism and the actions of the AKP party are entirely different. For the Ottoman state, Islamism was necessary, as the population of the Ottoman Empire was approximately 31.7 million, with Turks comprising around 9 million to 10 million, which accounted for 28.39% to 31.54% of the population.
Today the same population problem doesn't exist which makes AKP actions madness and not a reflection of Ottoman policy like you claim.
what the fuck are you talking about you ignored cahil. turkey had only 2 coup one was in 27 maıys 1960 other one was 12 eylül 1980
the 1960 coup did happened because of imbalanced in constitution that give so much power to government while parliament power was much less hence after the coup new constitution prepared to empower the parliament and with in 1 year turkey return to democracy. 1980 coup happened because turkey due to the stupidity of political class who polarized the society as well as cold war interference of soviet and CIA drive the country to edge of civil war. moreover the politician refuse to work together to form a coalition government army give memorandum if they don't work together then army will stage a coup politician knowingly refuse because it was political suicide for them after they polarized the society to that level. after the coup again just like 1960s coup university professors called as task to find the weakness of political system and fix it. within one year new constitution put in on referendum and turkey return to democracy
Firstly, calling someone ignorant and cahil is essentially the same thing; you don't need to do it twice. secondly, you forgot about the military getting involved in 1971 and the 1990s, both are called Coups.
As for the military returning power to the civilian government, I never said that they didn't. I just pointed out that the fact that the military needed to intervene was a sign that the system wasn't functioning as it should. It reveals institutional weakness that necessitated a coup in the first place.
I should also point out that you just highlighted my point about the relationship between the military and the republic.
again you Liar. CHP during single party wasn't a dictatorship the reason it was a single party was because there wasn't enough educated turks around to from a functioning multiparty democracy. also since literacy rate was only 5% general election postponed until illiteracy rate could cover majority of people anyone who was educated enough was invited to do politics and help govern the country including adnan menderes who was discovered by ataturk and send to be future educated. within the single party there was different faction who freely compete with one another and had elections . they were basically seeds to form new parties in future and turn turkey into munity party democracy
Again, you didn't disprove anything. A single-party state is still classified as a dictatorship.
system were working fine until islamist with the help of Americans show up and demolished it and now you blame the failure of this one man islamic system on republic ?? are you high ? btw the system you are defending is the current system of turkey where 1 single person do whatever he likes ad there is no check and balances
You keep saying that the system was fine, but it wasn't; the political system was constantly unstable and and the military, as you pointed out, needed to get involved constantly. The battle against Islamists isn't a new thing the Americans brought to Turkey; it has been around since Ottoman times. Islamists killed several sultans for trying to modernise the state, and they have long been in the background, trying to hollow out all the state institutions for their own benefit while using populism to do so.
all i hear from you is misinformation and propaganda likes of which i only heard from CIA blacked islamist groups such as Fetö and im pretty sure this is not due to your ignorance but rather ill intention. also im still waiting for your answer about the young Turks
I see you went to the Erdogan school of winning an argument just accuse everyone that has a different world view as you as a CIA backed Feto agents.
also i not to sure what you mean by young Turks if this is about an earlier discussion i have forgotten it.
