TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[mTT]

The heart of the ALTAY Tank will beat with the domestic BATU Power Pack:
• BMC Power has made significant progress on the BATU Power Pack, which will eliminate the need for foreign power packs in the ALTAY Tank. The goal is to have the BATU-equipped ALTAY ready by the end of 2026.
• Tests are occasionally conducted on the tank with the complete power group. In this context, the ALTAY tank equipped with the BATU Power Group performs tasks such as cruising and climbing
• Development work on the power group's engine is largely complete. Work continues with test envelopes aimed at meeting various standards. Development work on the transmission component is proceeding simultaneously

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1983457375160811561

 

[Sanchez]

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Akkor is now the second non Israeli APS system in use with a NATO nation after Pulat.

 

[Pokemonte13]

they will probably deliver 2-3 prototypes with Batu next year for field test but i'm not sure if it would be in the t1 or t2 configuration

 

[Deliorman]

So the numbers are like this :
(T1 - 3 YEAR ) - 85 TANKS
2025 - 5 tanks
2026 - 11 tanks
2027 - 40 tanks
2028* - 30 tanks
( T2 - 2 YEARS - 165 TANKS )
2028* - 2030 - 165 TANKS T2
( total 250 Tanks for 5 years )
New factory can build 98 tanks per year at full power and 100 + armored vihacles
- Still we need to speed up the process or we cant finish 1000 tank until 2042 while out advesaries like russia can build 300 tanks per year . We can deacrease Apc-ifv and produce 120 tanks per year at least .

These are absolutely laughable numbers… The level of production is tiny.

 

[mTT]

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[BalkanTurk90]

These are absolutely laughable numbers… The level of production is tiny.

For peace time np deleyed project 96 / year is good number but the problem is that Altay tank is deleyed so much , normally 2016 should be the year for production by Otokar but thats not happen as everyone knows so goverment duty in this case is to compesate the deley by increasing number of tanks per year , if still land forces want 1000 number than 150 tanks / year and still with that numbet it take 10 years to produce them since first years will be lower 5-6 years will be with 150 tanks per year

 

[boredaf]

For peace time np deleyed project 96 / year is good number but the problem is that Altay tank is deleyed so much , normally 2016 should be the year for production by Otokar but thats not happen as everyone knows so goverment duty in this case is to compesate the deley by increasing number of tanks per year , if still land forces want 1000 number than 150 tanks / year and still with that numbet it take 10 years to produce them since first years will be lower 5-6 years will be with 150 tanks per year

We are not going to have 1000 tanks, where on earth did you even get the idea that army wants that many tanks???

 

[BalkanTurk90]

We are not going to have 1000 tanks, where on earth did you even get the idea that army wants that many tanks??

İ dont make up 1000 tank number from my mind bro , that number is everywhere in media & social networks by 250 in 4 batches. Aslo by logic 1000 is good number to replace old tanks , do u know hpw many old tanls we have ? !
- Leo 1 , M48 , m60 , thats 1500+ old tanks
- İsrael for example have some 700 Merkava 4 which are modern ones
- 1000 for Turkiye is not too much

 

[TR_123456]

İ dont make up 1000 tank number from my mind bro , that number is everywhere in media & social networks by 250 in 4 batches. Aslo by logic 1000 is good number to replace old tanks , do u know hpw many old tanls we have ? !
- Leo 1 , M48 , m60 , thats 1500+ old tanks
- İsrael for example have some 700 Merkava 4 which are modern ones
- 1000 for Turkiye is not too much

Times have changed bro,we dont need so many MBT's anymore.
Maybe 500 at most.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Times have changed bro,we dont need so many MBT's anymore.
Maybe 500 at most.

We don't need MBTs, IFVs, manned jets, modern APCs. What do we need exactly? Million TB-3s? We can't say times have changed we don't need that to every platform while not doing anything to adopt to changing times. MBTs times are over because fpv drones with AP warheads, so are we producing any? No, STM will hopefully produce some in the near future. We can't just say times are changing and sit on our hands. Imo MBTs are still relevant but if army thinks otherwise we should replace them with something which we are not doing

 

[boredaf]

İ dont make up 1000 tank number from my mind bro , that number is everywhere in media & social networks by 250 in 4 batches. Aslo by logic 1000 is good number to replace old tanks , do u know hpw many old tanls we have ? !
- Leo 1 , M48 , m60 , thats 1500+ old tanks
- İsrael for example have some 700 Merkava 4 which are modern ones
- 1000 for Turkiye is not too much

I'm asking for a source mate. I'm looking at everywhere and all I see is 85 T1 and 165 T2 for a total of 250. No mention of 750 T3 or anything. And I wouldn't trust anything you see on social media. At all. And things change, do we need a 1000 60 ton tanks now? Or a more mobile armoured force would be better? What about the general design?

 

[Turkic]

*AI used in this post. Just for searching for information much faster than we could do*

"The information, 'A total of 1000 units is planned to be produced in four phases,' was located in an older revision of the relevant Wikipedia page. The current page has been updated with more specific information regarding the 250-unit initial production contract and the statement about the 'potential for increase.'"

This is the most relevant information Gemini could find from a database including these websites:
Savunmasanayist.com Defenceturk.net Savunmatr.com Defenceturkey.com Turdef.com Wikipedia.org

 

[Zafer]

FPV drones rely on critical minerals so we can not make them until we refine our mineral reserves, so we need to make tanks instead.

 

[mTT]

I'm asking for a source mate. I'm looking at everywhere and all I see is 85 T1 and 165 T2 for a total of 250. No mention of 750 T3 or anything. And I wouldn't trust anything you see on social media. At all. And things change, do we need a 1000 60 ton tanks now? Or a more mobile armoured force would be better? What about the general design?

KKK wants a heavy tank and does not prefer a light tank. We’ll see once the new order contract is signed; no one knows yet how many more Altay tanks will be procured.


ALTAY tank serial production delivery schedule

For the T1 Configuration:
2025: 3 Units
2026: 11 Units
2027: 41 Units
2028: 30 Units
The 165 tanks to be delivered in subsequent years will be in the T2 configuration.

 

[TR_123456]

We don't need MBTs, IFVs, manned jets, modern APCs. What do we need exactly? Million TB-3s? We can't say times have changed we don't need that to every platform while not doing anything to adopt to changing times. MBTs times are over because fpv drones with AP warheads, so are we producing any? No, STM will hopefully produce some in the near future. We can't just say times are changing and sit on our hands. Imo MBTs are still relevant but if army thinks otherwise we should replace them with something which we are not doing

So,name a possible enemy against whom we need a thousand tanks?

 

[Huelague]

I have two questions. First, what’s the fire rate of Altay? Second, is the current engine/transmission from Batu or Hyundai?

 

[Huelague]

So,name a possible enemy against whom we need a thousand tanks?

Greece, Israel, (Iran?)…

 

[mTT]

I have two questions. First, what’s the fire rate of Altay? Second, is the current engine/transmission from Batu or Hyundai?

Altay’s fire rate is about 6 rounds per minute, and it currently uses the Hyundai-Doosan (Korean) engine and transmission, not the Batu yet.

 

[Quasar]

I’m confused myself. If that sloped structure is supposed to deflect the shot, it didn’t because The round clearly penetrated through. Was it maybe intended to absorb the energy rather than stopping it?

deflecting in a literal sense is not an option I guess ....... through your precise observation and combined with Roketsan's description in Tank Surcicability solutions yep not survivability but Surcicability solutions I am not having fun this is from Roketsan web page hahahaha my guess is The hybrid reactive armor system?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

So,name a possible enemy against whom we need a thousand tanks?

1 - İsrael ( war for syria control or oil/gas around cyprus & Med )
2 - İran - iraq ( future geo-politics can completely change , we can be at war with 150+ million irani- kurdi - iraqi alliance )
3 - Russia ( İf they advance in full war in balkans
4 - Greece
5 - Grecce + EU ( War for gas/oil in Med, Grecce can bring EU Like france and attacks us ....