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Yes, the TF6000/TF10,000 makes sense for Kızılelma, but if we want to build a true unmanned combat aircraft, I think we'll need two 20,000 lb engines, as 10,000 lb isn't suitable for heavy loads. Do you have any estimates on this?

Baykar Engines has launched a project for a 20,000 lb turbofan engine. In this case, the actual target might be 20,000 lb. The real question is, will a single engine be sufficient, or will two 20,000 lb engines be sufficient?

An unmanned combat aircraft with such engine power could undertake many critical, high-risk missions, ensure the safety of our pilots, and take Türkiye to the top of the air dominance ladder.
 

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Yes, the TF6000/TF10,000 makes sense for Kızılelma, but if we want to build a true unmanned combat aircraft, I think we'll need two 20,000 lb engines, as 10,000 lb isn't suitable for heavy loads. Do you have any estimates on this?

Baykar Engines has launched a project for a 20,000 lb turbofan engine. In this case, the actual target might be 20,000 lb. The real question is, will a single engine be sufficient, or will two 20,000 lb engines be sufficient?

An unmanned combat aircraft with such engine power could undertake many critical, high-risk missions, ensure the safety of our pilots, and take Türkiye to the top of the air dominance ladder.
Once you make everything else on the plane ready to go a new engine can be a new version of the same plane without much development time to spend. If Baykar makes the ideal engine for the plane it can finally be the main configuration. With several engine options it will be possible to deliver different quality Kızılelma versions including possible non stealth and stealth versions.
 

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While Kızılelma needs the TF10000 engine to attain its designed capabilities the TF6000 engine only lacks the afterburner power that the TF10000 engine offers. AB is used in rare situations, this means that the TF6000 can still do a job if you do not foresee a high power requirement in a given mission. I can imagine Kızılelma flying with the TF6000 engine which is supposed to be in the preparation for flight state as of now. If the TF6000 engine becomes flyable a good amount of time before the TF10000 engine it maybe worthwhile to make a vesion of the Kızılelma to fly with the lesser engine. The TF6000 can be lighter giving more flight time for the mission. Two versions please.
Yeah but TEI mentioned several times they are now prioritizing TF10000 over TF6000 because of KE. So it looks like KE will never use TF6000.
 

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What has been occupying me for a long time with Baykar regarding engine construction is how they imagine building an engine from scratch without experience and know-how. Also, they have set the measuring plate very high: a jet engine with an afterburner. The whole thing seems very, very questionable to me. What comes to mind: they are up to something we don’t know, or they have acquired quite a bit from the Ukrainians (engineering, technical knowledge, etc.) with money.

A jet engine with an afterburner... requires a hell of a lot. Even upgrading the TF6000 to the TF10000 involves a great deal of knowledge and work. Things are not as simple as in YouTube videos.
 

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