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How Netanyahu Misled Trump

"The New York Times published an investigation into the war in the Middle East and its consequences. The article's authors argue that US President Donald Trump's decision to start a war with Iran was driven by personal convictions, the influence of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and a disregard for intelligence.

The decision to launch Operation Epic Fury jointly with Israel was made quickly, without lengthy negotiations or the consent of the allies. The article states that the Israeli prime minister explained to the US president that the Iranian regime would be "too weakened" to close the Strait of Hormuz, at which point it would collapse completely.

On February 11, Netanyahu addressed the war room, declaring that Iran was ready for regime change and expressing confidence that a joint US-Israeli operation would finally be able to put an end to the Islamic Republic.

Netanyahu and his team "laid out conditions that they said indicated a near-guaranteed victory: Iran's ballistic missile program could be destroyed within weeks. The regime would be so weakened that it would be unable to close the Strait of Hormuz, and the likelihood of Iran striking US interests in neighboring countries was assessed as minimal."

Secretary of State Marco Rubio called the plan "nonsense," but Trump made his choice.

Trump initially declared that Iran's nuclear and missile programs must be destroyed and its military power weakened. Then new goals emerged: Iran's "unconditional surrender."

According to the NYT, Trump was counting on a quick victory, the internal collapse of the regime, and an uprising in Iran. But this did not happen, and the war quickly spiraled out of control. The NYT notes that the US found itself drawn deeper into the conflict than it had planned."

 

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Are you saying that people without weapons can win a war 😳
Not "without weapons". More like it is not always just the weapons and who has a bigger and more technologically advanced army. I heard on the radio where they were discussing geopolitical stuff, it wasn't about this war, they said the world and the war is not as simple as a country has a bigger army and more technologicaly advanced than their opponents = they will always win 100%. In Greek history, let's say in Manzikert 1071 you celebrate this much, Izmir 1922, Cyprus 1974, it is the Greek politicians of the time who messed big time, didn't allow the Greek army to fight according to its true capability and potential and the Greek politicians of the time won the war for the Turks. When the politicians didn't interfere like that, the Greek history is full with cases we won against a bigger and more technologicaly advanced army.
 

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Iran says negotiations to be held in Pakistanpublished at 01:47
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Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) has said in a statement following the announced conditional ceasefire that negotiations will be held in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad within a maximum period of 15 days for the details to be "finalised". The statement has said that the negotiations will be held so that "Iran's victory in the field would also be consolidated in political negotiations".

The statement has gone beyond the 10-point plan that had been announced by state TV, and the statement has said that the US has agreed to:

  • Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran
  • The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz
  • Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment
  • Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions
  • Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency
  • Payment of compensation to Iran
  • Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region
  • And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"
 

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Correspondent: Iran is victorious on several fronts – "they have found the economic answer to a nuclear bomb"​

The Iranian regime has triumphed on several fronts.
And Donald Trump's latest "last-minute retreat" is no exception.

This is what Berlingske's correspondent in the Middle East, Gunnar Willum, says in a quick analysis this morning:

"The mere fact that they have survived Israel and the US bombing war for six weeks is interpreted as a victory. They have shown their allies in Russia and China that they can handle it. Many doubted that," he says.

But the Iranians have got more than that, Willum adds.

A propaganda victory:

"Trump's threats to wipe out an entire civilization suddenly make the radical Islamist regime, which a few months ago massacred demonstrators in the streets, appear more moderate," Berlingske's correspondent said.

"Not just in the eyes of the outside world, but in the eyes of many Iranians. Also among those who want to steer to where the pepper grows."
A victory in Hormuz:

"But the biggest victory of all is Iran's success in using the Strait of Hormuz as a weapon," it said.
"They have found the economic answer to an atomic bomb. And unlike a real atomic bomb, they have actually been able to use it without severe consequences for themselves."

And they will be able to do so again.

 

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Zionism won't stop attacking Iran. When the next war occurs they will claim that iran broke the agreement. Its really no different to how they lied about saddams WMD's to invade Iraq. Iranians will get the same treatment.

So what will probably happen if negotiations succeed, is that the zionist anglo american axis will start rebuilding their capabilities in the region and when the time is right come back at iran. But the next time will be bigger then this time. Just like this time was significantly bigger then the previous 12 day assualt.

The iranians just took 6 weeks of an absolute ass pounding, their capabilities and stockpiles have been diminished. The real question now is will iran be able to replenish her capabilities to the required level when the next round of attacks come.

So i wouldn't take this "theatre" of Isreal didn't know what the americans were doing nonsense, they obviously calculated that things are not going to plan and international sentiment is going against them because of the economic impact of the straights being closed. So they need to change strategy and they need some time to do that.

In my mind i think the"iranians" made another critical mistake. The war should have continued until the americans pull back from the immediate region. The iranians should have said we will only stop once you show a goodwill gesture in removing american/troops and assets from the region. Had they done that you would have known they were sincecre. Instead what we got from the americans were threats of total extermination, then the "agreement." Which shows that the way the situation worked out has worked out in the interests of america. Those interests are not the interests of iran.

They will attack again that is certain.
 

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"There has never been such a political disaster in all of our history. Israel wasn't even at the table when decisions were made concerning the core of our national security."

My money would be on this being a lie. A deception. No way on earth that i believe that the zionists didn't know what was taking place. They got eyes and ears everywhere within the US administration.

Their plan will be to rebuild their forces in the region, replenish their material capacity and to change strategy and then to attack again.
 
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Correspondent: Iran is victorious on several fronts – "they have found the economic answer to a nuclear bomb"​

The Iranian regime has triumphed on several fronts.
And Donald Trump's latest "last-minute retreat" is no exception.

This is what Berlingske's correspondent in the Middle East, Gunnar Willum, says in a quick analysis this morning:

"The mere fact that they have survived Israel and the US bombing war for six weeks is interpreted as a victory. They have shown their allies in Russia and China that they can handle it. Many doubted that," he says.

But the Iranians have got more than that, Willum adds.

A propaganda victory:

"Trump's threats to wipe out an entire civilization suddenly make the radical Islamist regime, which a few months ago massacred demonstrators in the streets, appear more moderate," Berlingske's correspondent said.

"Not just in the eyes of the outside world, but in the eyes of many Iranians. Also among those who want to steer to where the pepper grows."
A victory in Hormuz:

"But the biggest victory of all is Iran's success in using the Strait of Hormuz as a weapon," it said.
"They have found the economic answer to an atomic bomb. And unlike a real atomic bomb, they have actually been able to use it without severe consequences for themselves."

And they will be able to do so again.

Yes, Iran won 🙄
This is what a Pyrrhic victory should look like!
I can't list all the strategic targets destroyed by Iran's enemies. But considering that enemy aircraft destroyed hundreds of Iranian military and industrial facilities every day for 40 days...

The geopolitical genius of the wise Iranian ayatollahs was so brilliant that for the first time in history, a Muslim country simultaneously waged war against a Jewish, Christian, and several Muslim countries 🙄
Genius and wisdom literally poured from their long white beards 🙄
 

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Iran again launched ballistic missile attacks on the Israeli city of Tel Aviv and the Negev region. Tel Aviv's Iron Dome air defense system has become less active due to its diminishing stockpile. Israel's air defenses are now using missiles manufactured in 2026. It's worth noting that the US and Israel also launch missile strikes against Iran daily.

 

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Yes, Iran won 🙄
This is what a Pyrrhic victory should look like!
I can't list all the strategic targets destroyed by Iran's enemies. But considering that enemy aircraft destroyed hundreds of Iranian military and industrial facilities every day for 40 days...

The geopolitical genius of the wise Iranian ayatollahs was so brilliant that for the first time in history, a Muslim country simultaneously waged war against a Jewish, Christian, and several Muslim countries 🙄
Genius and wisdom literally poured from their long white beards 🙄

Its definitely a disaster and truth be told this is generally what "political islamist" politics looks like. They create a bad or worse situation and when they obtain the bad outcome they sell it as a success. So the worse option was to continue to sustain hundreds of american/isreali sorties a daily, or to take the bad option which is a "tempremental" ceasefire, which everyone knows will be broken as soon as it makes sense again by the isrealis.

Look at the zionist approach in the middle east, its always incremental. They push the envelope, then they stop and regroup to go again down the line. But each time they make their move their enemies are made weaker. Palestinians got many ceasefires too and celebrated many victories, today their that state faces near extinction.

Iranians should be asking themselves how were they governed so badly over the decades that only could find themselves in a position where america and isreal could bomb them with absolute impunity, where the americans were even openly declaring their complete and total extermination.

However from a Turkish perspective, this outcome is actually pretty good for us. Iranians live to fight another day which takes zionist focus off Turkiye. The iranians themselves took a massive ass pounding and massively depleted their own offensive stockpiles. Then to make the situation better the iranians attacked all her muslim neighbours which will force them to deal more favourably towards Turkiye.

Likewise the international reputation of the isrealis took another massive nose dive.
 

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Its definitely a disaster and truth be told this is generally what "political islamist" politics looks like. They create a bad or worse situation and when they obtain the bad outcome they sell it as a success. So the worse option was to continue to sustain hundreds of american/isreali sorties a daily, or to take the bad option which is a "tempremental" ceasefire, which everyone knows will be broken as soon as it makes sense again by the isrealis.

Look at the zionist approach in the middle east, its always incremental. They push the envelope, then they stop and regroup to go again down the line. But each time they make their move their enemies are made weaker. Palestinians got many ceasefires too and celebrated many victories, today their that state faces near extinction.

Iranians should be asking themselves how were they governed so badly over the decades that only could find themselves in a position where america and isreal could bomb them with absolute impunity, where the americans were even openly declaring their complete and total extermination.

However from a Turkish perspective, this outcome is actually pretty good for us. Iranians live to fight another day which takes zionist focus off Turkiye. The iranians themselves took a massive ass pounding and massively depleted their own offensive stockpiles. Then to make the situation better the iranians attacked all her muslim neighbours which will force them to deal more favourably towards Turkiye.

Likewise the international reputation of the isrealis took another massive nose dive.
US also celebrate that this ceasefire like iran did, but ceasefire only for US vs Iran, Iran Vs Israel???
 

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US also celebrate that this ceasefire like iran did, but ceasefire only for US vs Iran, Iran Vs Israel???

we seen plenty of "ceasefires" in the middle east over the last 100 years. In nearly all cases the ceasefires were always to the benefit of the anglo-american zionist side.

Sometimes within the USA they have to stop for a while to quell public outrage, only to restart the process down the road rinse and repeat. If you remember a big selling point of trump was no more forever wars in the middle east. Turned out he was no different then any US president before him in terms of pursing greater middle east agenda.

Fool me once...... The middle easterner has been fooled plenty of times by the anglo-saxon.

Dont forget in the previous 12 day assault the iranians also celebrated the ceasefire and claimed "victory". Well since then got a 6 week assault. The next assault may be 6 months long.

The zionist project is complete and total conquest, its either them or the common Muslim.

Iranians should use whatever time they get to purchase and build as many missiles and drones as they can. I would even argue, Turkiye, Pakistan and others should sell or if need be donate weapons to iran. Not because iran is a friend, but because zionism is the greater threat here.

remember Turks these same zionists are selling the greeks weapons which will only ever be used against Turks. So play that same sleazy zionist game back on them, f'k em. Turkiye is the next iran is what they said, so lets make sure the first Iran remains as a constant headache for them.
 
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we seen plenty of "ceasefires" in the middle east over the last 100 years. In nearly all cases the ceasefires were always to the benefit of the anglo-american zionist side.

Sometimes within the USA they have to stop for a while to quell public outrage, only to restart the process down the road rinse and repeat. If you remember a big selling point of trump was no more forever wars in the middle east. Turned out he was no different then any US president before him in terms of pursing greater middle east agenda.

Fool me once...... The middle easterner has been fooled plenty of times by the anglo-saxon.

Dont forget in the previous 12 day assault the iranians also celebrated the ceasefire and claimed "victory". Well since then got a 6 week assault. The next assault may be 6 months long.

The zionist project is complete and total conquest, its either them or the common Muslim.

Iranians should use whatever time they get to purchase and build as many missiles and drones as they can. I would even argue, Turkiye, Pakistan and others should sell or if need be donate weapons to iran. Not because iran is a friend, but because zionism is the greater threat here.

remember Turks these same zionists are selling the greeks weapons which will only ever be used against Turks. So play that same sleazy zionist game back on them, f'k em. Turkiye is the next iran is what they said, so lets make sure the first Iran remains as a constant headache for them.
Iran surviving this way is the best outcome for Türkiye. But we should never sell any weapons to them. This would be a big mistake. We should keep our relations with US at least neutral as long as possible. Iran should buy stuff from China, Russia, and NK.
 

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Iran ceasefire deal gives Trump a way out of war - but at a high cost​

8 hours ago


Anthony ZurcherNorth America correspondent
Kevin Lmarque / Reuters

In the end, cooler heads prevailed – at least for now.

At 18:32 Washington time, President Donald Trump posted on his social media website that the US and Iran were "very far along" with a "definitive" peace agreement and that he had agreed to a two-week ceasefire to allow negotiations to proceed.

It wasn't exactly the last minute, but with Trump's looming 20:00 EDT (00:00 GMT on Wednesday) deadline to reach a deal or the US would launch massive strikes against Iranian energy and transportation infrastructure, it came pretty close.

All of this is contingent on Iran also suspending hostilities and fully opening the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping traffic, which the regime says it will do, while insisting it still exerts "dominion" over the waterway.

The deal allowed Trump to extricate himself from what was shaping up to be a treacherous choice – either escalating with his promise that a "whole civilisation will die tonight" or backing down and undermining his credibility. The US president may have only bought himself a temporary reprieve, however.

The US and Iranians now will engage in negotiations over the next two weeks, buying some time to try to reach a permanent settlement. It is likely to be a bumpy ride, but in after-hours trading, the price of a barrel of oil dropped below the $100 mark for the first time in days and US stock futures soared. There appears to be a sense of optimism that the worst is over.

Even this kind of progress was far from certain as recently as Tuesday morning, when Trump threatened the death of Iranian civilisation, "never to be brought back again".


Whether such a jaw-dropping threat from an American president pressured Iran to agree to the kind of ceasefire they had previously rejected is uncertain. What is clear is that Trump's astounding, inflammatory declaration – just two days after a similar obscenity-laced Truth Social demand – is unlike anything a modern US president has ever levelled or hinted at.

And even if the two-week ceasefire does result in a permanent peace, the Iran war – and Trump's recent words – may have fundamentally altered the way the rest of the world views the US.

Tracking recent US-Israeli strikes on Iranian infrastructure​


Trump condemned over threat that Iran's 'civilisation will die'​


A nation that once styled itself as a force for stability around the globe is now shaking the foundations of the international order. A president who has seemingly relished shattering norms and traditions in domestic politics is now doing the same on the world stage.

Democrats were quick to condemn Trump's words on Tuesday, with some going so far as to call for his removal.

"It is clear that the president has continued to decline and is not fit to lead," wrote Congressman Joaquin Castro on X.

Chuck Schumer, the top Democrat in the US Senate, said any Republican who did not join in voting to end the Iran war "owns every consequence of whatever the hell this is".

While many in Trump's own party stood by their president, it was far from the near-universal support he often enjoys.


Austin Scott, Republican congressman from Georgia and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, strongly criticised Trump's threats about a civilisation dying.

"The president's comments are counter-productive," he told the BBC, "and I do not agree with them."

Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, usually a Trump loyalist, said it would be a "huge mistake" if Trump followed through with his bombing campaign. Congressman Nathaniel Moran of Texas wrote on social media that he did not support "the destruction of a 'whole civilisation'".

"This is not who we are," he wrote, "and it is not consistent with the principles that have long guided America."

Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, who has frequently broken with the president, was equally direct, writing that the president's threat "cannot be excused away as an attempt to gain leverage in negotiations with Iran".


The White House is likely to counter that the leverage worked, however. And for a president who has faced declining poll numbers, a growing number of critics within his own party and an economy that is struggling over higher energy prices, any off-ramp in the conflict is likely to come as a relief.

In his Truth Social post announcing the ceasefire, Trump said that the US had "met and exceeded" all its military objectives.



Iran's military has been significantly degraded. Although its Islamic fundamentalist regime is still in power, many of its top leaders have been killed in bombing strikes.
At the moment, however, many of the stated American objectives are still in doubt. The disposition of Iran's enriched uranium – the foundation of its nuclear weapons programme – is unknown. The nation still has influence over regional proxies, such as the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

And even if Iran does fully open Hormuz – without conditioning passage on tolls or other payments – its ability to control the key geopolitical chokepoint is more clear now than ever.

In a statement after Trump's ceasefire message, Iranian foreign minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi said that Iran would halt its "defensive operations" and allow safe passage through the Hormuz "via coordination with Iran's armed forces". He added that the US had accepted the "general framework" of the Iranian 10-point plan.

That plan includes the US withdrawing its military forces from the region, lifting economic sanctions on Iran, paying compensation for war damages and allowing Iran to maintain control over Hormuz. It is hard to imagine Trump actually agreeing to any of those conditions – a sign that the next two weeks of negotiations could be treacherous.

For the moment, however, this is a partial political victory for Trump. He made a dramatic threat and achieved the desired result. But the ceasefire is a reprieve, not a permanent settlement.

The long-term cost of the president's words and actions, and of the war overall, has yet to be fully assessed.

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You know those 2 weeks are a short respite, and US and Israel being unscrupulous anything can happen. I wonder if Iran can find enough support from Russia and China to quickly replace some of the defends capabilities they've lost.

Israel definitely won't stop, because they're in for some Landgrabbing.
 
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