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Not "without weapons". More like it is not always just the weapons and who has a bigger and more technologically advanced army. I heard on the radio where they were discussing geopolitical stuff, it wasn't about this war, they said the world and the war is not as simple as a country has a bigger army and more technologicaly advanced than their opponents = they will always win 100%. In Greek history, let's say in Manzikert 1071 you celebrate this much, Izmir 1922, Cyprus 1974, it is the Greek politicians of the time who messed big time, didn't allow the Greek army to fight according to its true capability and potential and the Greek politicians of the time won the war for the Turks. When the politicians didn't interfere like that, the Greek history is full with cases we won against a bigger and more technologicaly advanced army.Are you saying that people without weapons can win a war![]()
Yes, Iran wonCorrespondent: Iran is victorious on several fronts – "they have found the economic answer to a nuclear bomb"
The Iranian regime has triumphed on several fronts.
And Donald Trump's latest "last-minute retreat" is no exception.
This is what Berlingske's correspondent in the Middle East, Gunnar Willum, says in a quick analysis this morning:
"The mere fact that they have survived Israel and the US bombing war for six weeks is interpreted as a victory. They have shown their allies in Russia and China that they can handle it. Many doubted that," he says.
But the Iranians have got more than that, Willum adds.
A propaganda victory:
"Trump's threats to wipe out an entire civilization suddenly make the radical Islamist regime, which a few months ago massacred demonstrators in the streets, appear more moderate," Berlingske's correspondent said.
"Not just in the eyes of the outside world, but in the eyes of many Iranians. Also among those who want to steer to where the pepper grows."
A victory in Hormuz:
"But the biggest victory of all is Iran's success in using the Strait of Hormuz as a weapon," it said.
"They have found the economic answer to an atomic bomb. And unlike a real atomic bomb, they have actually been able to use it without severe consequences for themselves."
And they will be able to do so again.
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Yes, Iran won
This is what a Pyrrhic victory should look like!
I can't list all the strategic targets destroyed by Iran's enemies. But considering that enemy aircraft destroyed hundreds of Iranian military and industrial facilities every day for 40 days...
The geopolitical genius of the wise Iranian ayatollahs was so brilliant that for the first time in history, a Muslim country simultaneously waged war against a Jewish, Christian, and several Muslim countries
Genius and wisdom literally poured from their long white beards![]()
US also celebrate that this ceasefire like iran did, but ceasefire only for US vs Iran, Iran Vs Israel???Its definitely a disaster and truth be told this is generally what "political islamist" politics looks like. They create a bad or worse situation and when they obtain the bad outcome they sell it as a success. So the worse option was to continue to sustain hundreds of american/isreali sorties a daily, or to take the bad option which is a "tempremental" ceasefire, which everyone knows will be broken as soon as it makes sense again by the isrealis.
Look at the zionist approach in the middle east, its always incremental. They push the envelope, then they stop and regroup to go again down the line. But each time they make their move their enemies are made weaker. Palestinians got many ceasefires too and celebrated many victories, today their that state faces near extinction.
Iranians should be asking themselves how were they governed so badly over the decades that only could find themselves in a position where america and isreal could bomb them with absolute impunity, where the americans were even openly declaring their complete and total extermination.
However from a Turkish perspective, this outcome is actually pretty good for us. Iranians live to fight another day which takes zionist focus off Turkiye. The iranians themselves took a massive ass pounding and massively depleted their own offensive stockpiles. Then to make the situation better the iranians attacked all her muslim neighbours which will force them to deal more favourably towards Turkiye.
Likewise the international reputation of the isrealis took another massive nose dive.
Israel says it will abide by the ceasefire,lets see what happens.US also celebrate that this ceasefire like iran did, but ceasefire only for US vs Iran, Iran Vs Israel???
US also celebrate that this ceasefire like iran did, but ceasefire only for US vs Iran, Iran Vs Israel???
Iran surviving this way is the best outcome for Türkiye. But we should never sell any weapons to them. This would be a big mistake. We should keep our relations with US at least neutral as long as possible. Iran should buy stuff from China, Russia, and NK.we seen plenty of "ceasefires" in the middle east over the last 100 years. In nearly all cases the ceasefires were always to the benefit of the anglo-american zionist side.
Sometimes within the USA they have to stop for a while to quell public outrage, only to restart the process down the road rinse and repeat. If you remember a big selling point of trump was no more forever wars in the middle east. Turned out he was no different then any US president before him in terms of pursing greater middle east agenda.
Fool me once...... The middle easterner has been fooled plenty of times by the anglo-saxon.
Dont forget in the previous 12 day assault the iranians also celebrated the ceasefire and claimed "victory". Well since then got a 6 week assault. The next assault may be 6 months long.
The zionist project is complete and total conquest, its either them or the common Muslim.
Iranians should use whatever time they get to purchase and build as many missiles and drones as they can. I would even argue, Turkiye, Pakistan and others should sell or if need be donate weapons to iran. Not because iran is a friend, but because zionism is the greater threat here.
remember Turks these same zionists are selling the greeks weapons which will only ever be used against Turks. So play that same sleazy zionist game back on them, f'k em. Turkiye is the next iran is what they said, so lets make sure the first Iran remains as a constant headache for them.
And again, most probably to be revoked by Supreme Court.
Iran says negotiations to be held in Pakistanpublished at 01:47
01:47
Ghoncheh Habibiazad![]()
Senior reporter, BBC Persian
Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) has said in a statement following the announced conditional ceasefire that negotiations will be held in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad within a maximum period of 15 days for the details to be "finalised". The statement has said that the negotiations will be held so that "Iran's victory in the field would also be consolidated in political negotiations".
The statement has gone beyond the 10-point plan that had been announced by state TV, and the statement has said that the US has agreed to:
- Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran
- The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz
- Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment
- Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions
- Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency
- Payment of compensation to Iran
- Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region
- And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"