Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Parry Brima]

A combination of F-15Ex + used F-16 from boneyard or from american allies country that will phassed out their F-16 and upgraded it to V standard to cut the arrival timeframe will be best though

I agree. F-15EX + V variant upgrade of used F-16s will be the most economical option. But we heard what the boss said. No single engine.

 

[Initial_D]

I agree. F-15EX + V variant upgrade of used F-16s will be the most economical option. But we heard what the boss said. No single engine.

08 said no to single engine but wanted F-35 lol, i don't know who whispered in his ear to reject and sideline F-16, perhaps he had a french salesman as his internal staff

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358149968096239617

 

[FPXAllen]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358149968096239617

The keyword here is "quite advance[d]", so better take it with a grain of salt.

Obviously, I'm hoping that this means they'll offer the F-15EX like they did to India, but if that tweet is taken without context, even the F-4 Phantom II is quite advanced.

Anyway, this one is from last week (emphasis mine):

Offering the F-15EX would result in Boeing pulling out the Super Hornet from the contest. "There is no way Boeing would field two fighters in the same competition," said Pratyush Kumar, who heads the F-15EX project in Saint Louis, USA. Kumar said Boeing was waiting to see the performance requirements of the IAF. Boeing will then decide which fighter it will offer.

More likely, Boeing will decide to offer the F-15EX to the IAF, while offering the Super Hornet to the Indian Navy, which is separately pursuing the acquisition of 57 fighters for its aircraft carriers. The US military uses the Super Hornet only as a naval, carrier-deck fighter, though it has sold countries such as Australia the F/A-18E/F as a land-based fighter.

Now since our naval aviation don't have aircraft carrier, nor strike fighter air wing, I think it's likely now that the offer will be either F-15 or F/A-18, not both as indicated on December last year.

 

[Umigami]

The keyword here is "quite advance[d]", so better take it with a grain of salt.

Obviously, I'm hoping that this means they'll offer the F-15EX like they did to India, but if that tweet is taken without context, even the F-4 Phantom II is quite advanced.

Anyway, this one is from last week (emphasis mine):



Now since our naval aviation don't have aircraft carrier, nor strike fighter air wing, I think it's likely now that the offer will be either F-15 or F/A-18, not both as indicated on December last year.

"There is no way Boeing would field two fighters in the SAME competition,"

Except We actually have 2 competition going on right now, Su35-equivalent and F16v-equivalent .

F15 can do maritime strike too.

 

[FPXAllen]

"There is no way Boeing would field two fighters in the SAME competition,"

Except We actually have 2 competition going on right now, Su35-equivalent and F16v-equivalent .

Well then, if the F-16V offer still stands, then it will be a competition between Boeing and General Dynamics Lockheed Martin. But IIRC, the MoD doesn't want single engine fighter so...

F15 can be equipped with maritime strike too.

Yeah, I know. They've tested it with Harpoon missile some years back.

 

[Umigami]

Well then, if the F-16V offer still stands, then it will be a competition between Boeing and General Dynamics. But IIRC, the MoD doesn't want single engine fighter so...


Yeah, I know. They've tested it with Harpoon missile some years back.

Lockheed Martin *

Just tell him he already got his ego on F15ex (or F18), so just take that F16 for the sake of cheaper operational spending and commonality.

 

[FPXAllen]

Lockheed Martin *

Ah yes, my bad. That one.
Reminds me of IndoDefence 2014 (or was it 2016?). Even back then they were already promoting F-16V quite heavily with huge poster and a mock up.

What a twist.

 

[Agent_G]

Good News Guys.

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in dozens of annual engagements, and our cooperation has increased in the areas of border security, counter proliferation, cybersecurity, counterterrorism, maritime security, maritime domain awareness, peacekeeping operations, and humanitarian assistance and disaster response.

The United States has $1.88 billion in active government-to-government sales cases with Indonesia under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system. FMS sales notified to Congress are listed here , and recent and significant prior sales include: F-16C/D Block 25 fighter aircraft; AH-64D Apache Block III Longbow helicopters; MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft; and Javelin, AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM, AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder, and AGM-65K2 Maverick missiles.

From FY 2015 through FY 2019, the United States also authorized the permanent export of more than $546 million in defense articles to Indonesia via the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process. The top categories of DCS to Indonesia include: aircraft, firearms, and electronics.

In FY 2020, Indonesia received $14 million in Foreign Military Financing and more than $2.3 million in International Military Education and Training funds. In FY 2020, The Department of Defense provided Indonesia with $22.6 million in security assistance under Section 333. Indonesia is also eligible to receive assistance under Section 1263, known as the Indo-Pacific Maritime Security Initiative, which seeks to strengthen naval and coast guard maritime security and maritime domain awareness capacity in the region. The Department of Defense has also provided Indonesia with more than $5 million in defense institutional capacity building support from FY 2016 through FY 2020. These services have focused on human capital improvements for strategic planning, budgeting, sustainment, and maritime security.

Indonesia concluded a General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA) and a Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA). These foundational agreements establish the framework for enhanced partnership, information sharing, and defense cooperation between the United States and Indonesia.

Indonesia is a significant troop contributor to United Nations peacekeeping operations with more than 2,750 personnel deployed to 8 missions. Indonesia is currently participating in the UNIFIL Maritime Task Force.

Since 2006, Indonesia has partnered with the Hawaii National Guard as part of the State Partnership Program.

Since 1989, the Indonesian Air Force and the U.S. Pacific Air Force have conducted the Cope West military exercise, which allows for the exchange of tactics, techniques and procedures related to air-to-air training and promotes regional stability through cooperation. The Indonesian Armed Forces and U.S. Army Pacific also conduct Garuda Shield which is focused on peace support training capacity and stability operations. Indonesia participates in larger multilateral or regional exercises to include Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) and Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC).

For further information, please contact the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs at [email protected], and follow the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs on Twitter, @StateDeptPM .

Link :

U.S. Security Cooperation With Indonesia - United States Department of State

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in...

www.state.gov

 

[Agent_G]

Good News Guys.

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in dozens of annual engagements, and our cooperation has increased in the areas of border security, counter proliferation, cybersecurity, counterterrorism, maritime security, maritime domain awareness, peacekeeping operations, and humanitarian assistance and disaster response.

The United States has $1.88 billion in active government-to-government sales cases with Indonesia under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system. FMS sales notified to Congress are listed here , and recent and significant prior sales include: F-16C/D Block 25 fighter aircraft; AH-64D Apache Block III Longbow helicopters; MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft; and Javelin, AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM, AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder, and AGM-65K2 Maverick missiles.

From FY 2015 through FY 2019, the United States also authorized the permanent export of more than $546 million in defense articles to Indonesia via the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process. The top categories of DCS to Indonesia include: aircraft, firearms, and electronics.

In FY 2020, Indonesia received $14 million in Foreign Military Financing and more than $2.3 million in International Military Education and Training funds. In FY 2020, The Department of Defense provided Indonesia with $22.6 million in security assistance under Section 333. Indonesia is also eligible to receive assistance under Section 1263, known as the Indo-Pacific Maritime Security Initiative, which seeks to strengthen naval and coast guard maritime security and maritime domain awareness capacity in the region. The Department of Defense has also provided Indonesia with more than $5 million in defense institutional capacity building support from FY 2016 through FY 2020. These services have focused on human capital improvements for strategic planning, budgeting, sustainment, and maritime security.

Indonesia concluded a General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA) and a Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA). These foundational agreements establish the framework for enhanced partnership, information sharing, and defense cooperation between the United States and Indonesia.

Indonesia is a significant troop contributor to United Nations peacekeeping operations with more than 2,750 personnel deployed to 8 missions. Indonesia is currently participating in the UNIFIL Maritime Task Force.

Since 2006, Indonesia has partnered with the Hawaii National Guard as part of the State Partnership Program.

Since 1989, the Indonesian Air Force and the U.S. Pacific Air Force have conducted the Cope West military exercise, which allows for the exchange of tactics, techniques and procedures related to air-to-air training and promotes regional stability through cooperation. The Indonesian Armed Forces and U.S. Army Pacific also conduct Garuda Shield which is focused on peace support training capacity and stability operations. Indonesia participates in larger multilateral or regional exercises to include Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) and Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC).

For further information, please contact the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs at [email protected], and follow the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs on Twitter, @StateDeptPM .

Link :

U.S. Security Cooperation With Indonesia - United States Department of State

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in...

www.state.gov

Does anyone know the FMS in 2020 is worth US$ 14M for any purchases?

 

[Umigami]

Good News Guys.

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in dozens of annual engagements, and our cooperation has increased in the areas of border security, counter proliferation, cybersecurity, counterterrorism, maritime security, maritime domain awareness, peacekeeping operations, and humanitarian assistance and disaster response.

The United States has $1.88 billion in active government-to-government sales cases with Indonesia under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system. FMS sales notified to Congress are listed here , and recent and significant prior sales include: F-16C/D Block 25 fighter aircraft; AH-64D Apache Block III Longbow helicopters; MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft; and Javelin, AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM, AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder, and AGM-65K2 Maverick missiles.

From FY 2015 through FY 2019, the United States also authorized the permanent export of more than $546 million in defense articles to Indonesia via the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process. The top categories of DCS to Indonesia include: aircraft, firearms, and electronics.

In FY 2020, Indonesia received $14 million in Foreign Military Financing and more than $2.3 million in International Military Education and Training funds. In FY 2020, The Department of Defense provided Indonesia with $22.6 million in security assistance under Section 333. Indonesia is also eligible to receive assistance under Section 1263, known as the Indo-Pacific Maritime Security Initiative, which seeks to strengthen naval and coast guard maritime security and maritime domain awareness capacity in the region. The Department of Defense has also provided Indonesia with more than $5 million in defense institutional capacity building support from FY 2016 through FY 2020. These services have focused on human capital improvements for strategic planning, budgeting, sustainment, and maritime security.

Indonesia concluded a General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA) and a Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA). These foundational agreements establish the framework for enhanced partnership, information sharing, and defense cooperation between the United States and Indonesia.

Indonesia is a significant troop contributor to United Nations peacekeeping operations with more than 2,750 personnel deployed to 8 missions. Indonesia is currently participating in the UNIFIL Maritime Task Force.

Since 2006, Indonesia has partnered with the Hawaii National Guard as part of the State Partnership Program.

Since 1989, the Indonesian Air Force and the U.S. Pacific Air Force have conducted the Cope West military exercise, which allows for the exchange of tactics, techniques and procedures related to air-to-air training and promotes regional stability through cooperation. The Indonesian Armed Forces and U.S. Army Pacific also conduct Garuda Shield which is focused on peace support training capacity and stability operations. Indonesia participates in larger multilateral or regional exercises to include Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) and Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC).

For further information, please contact the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs at [email protected], and follow the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs on Twitter, @StateDeptPM .

Link :

U.S. Security Cooperation With Indonesia - United States Department of State

The United States and Indonesia have enjoyed more than 70 years of bilateral ties. We share an abiding common interest in a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Indo-Pacific region. Our security relationship has broadened and deepened in recent decades, thanks to consistent participation in...

www.state.gov

Good news what?

 

[Agent_G]

Good news what?

For In 2020 Indonesia receive US$14M FMS.

You don't read the news?

 

[Agent_G]

Good news what?

 

[Umigami]

For In 2020 Indonesia receive US$14M FMS.

You don't read the news?

Well, I mean that was last year.

 

[flogger]

Realy....lol

 

[Nilgiri]

Will Indonesia make a firm call soon in first half of this year?

 

[Umigami]

Do they have credible source?
The have Alman Helvas as producer?
Really?

 

[this is crunch]

FMS sales notified to Congress are listed here , and recent and significant prior sales include: F-16C/D Block 25 fighter aircraft; AH-64D Apache Block III Longbow helicopters; MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft; and Javelin, AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM, AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder, and AGM-65K2 Maverick missiles.

wait, why AH-64D Block III? Was'nt ours already AH-64E?

 

[wekiweko]

obviously personal opinion here, however if we start to think about our military's habit of not buying stuff in bulk (esp, weapons, munitions), what difference will F-15 EX make during wartime or heightened situation, if we can only sortie them out with minimum load out (considering our inability to fit all of their hard points with the necessary weaponry, due to the rationale as sets out in the preceding sentence.

 

[wekiweko]

EEZ in Northern Natuna

would be good if we can start to equip some of our F-16 with the likes of AGM-84