Montreux and Ataturk declaration from 103 retired Turkish admirals

[Deliorman]

Wanker Osman.... You know, he was in the same high school as me (TED Ankara College). He was 1 year older me. He masturbated in class, during class time and school management expelled him. So, he went to Samanyolu College.

Abi, is he a son of Melih Gökçek or something?

 

[Xenon54]

Statement of Cem Gürdeniz;


“Son dönemde çıkan Montrö tartışmaları ve medyada tasvip edilmeyen fotoğrafları ortaya çıkan Deniz Kuvvetleri mensubu beni üzmüştür. Bir emekli amiral olarak, amirallerimizin ortak gündeme getirdiği böyle bir metni açıklamanın ve bu metne benim de imza koymamın sakınca olmadığını değerlendirdim. Bu en azından ifade özgürlüğü kapsamında değerlendirilmelidir.

Yıllarca Türkiye’nin menfaatleri için hareket edip, Mavi Vatan’a sahip çıktık. Dolayısıyla yapılan açıklama, Türkiye’nin menfaatleri ve Mavi Vatan’ı korumak içindir. Açıklama yapma özgürlüğüne sahibiz ve buradan bir mağduriyet oluşturulmamalı. Yapılan bir açıklamadır bunu bir ‘Darbe çağrısı’ olarak yorumlamak son derece yanlıştır. Kaldı ki biz FETÖ’nün kumpaslarında hapis yatmış kişileriz. Amacımız Mavi Vatan’a sahip çıkmaktır.”

https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber...turkiyenin-menfaatlerine-sahip-cikmak-1825553

Short Translation; Cem Gürdeniz said that, discussion on Montreux Agreement and an active admiral belonging to a religious cult, disturbed him.

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Wife of Cem Gğrdeniz says that ex-Admirals who are under arrest will be kept under arrest till Thursday. At Thursday their statements will be take by prosecutors.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379108460659404802

After their statements are taken, there will be 3 options.
1-) Prosecutor will release them saying there is no need for prosecution.
2-) Prosecutor will be release them but a case will be opened to prosecute them.
3-) Prosecutor will open a case to prosecute them and continue their arrest during this phase.

Imagine being arrested just for expressing your opinion, harsh reality of Erdogans new Turkey.

 

[Sinan]

Abi, is he a son of Melih Gökçek or something?

Yeap.

 

[Xenon54]

Yeap.

Dad is a retard, son is a pervert.
WTF is wrong with this family?

 

[Sinan]

Imagine being arrested just for expressing your opinion, harsh reality of Erdogans new Turkey.

During, Boğaziçi protests, i said "These students are protesting with their constitutional rights," Some of our members here said "They are liberals, they are this, they are that, they should be beaten, etc...."

Now, time has come to ex-Admirals and we are again talking about constitutional rights. To our Erdogan supporters, everyone who doesn't think like AKP, should be silenced by any means.

 

[Xenon54]

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During, Boğaziçi protests, i said "These students are protesting with their constitutional rights," Some of our members here said "They are liberals, they are this, they are that, they should be beaten, etc...."

Now, time has come to ex-Admirals and we are again talking about constitutional rights. To our Erdogan supporters, everyone who doesn't think like AKP, should be silenced by any means.

Maybe one day their turn will come and everybody will point to these events and say ''told you''.

 

[mulj]

Okay, you as a guy from Bosnia that has nothing to do with Turkey can give your opinions and expertise on everything that happens in Turkey but people that during their whole life served the country and took part in its defense CAN’T.

I never said that they can not, i said that their stance has certain specific weight and measurment for possible consequences, i am sure those officers were aware of it. Mine dose not, false equivalence.

 

[mulj]

And what exactly will happen after their declaration, a coup? There is nothing wrong with their declaration.

Only content is wrong?

 

[Sinan]

Onky content is wrong?

I followed this issue on media.

Why this statement is a coup statement according to pro-government journalists;

- Because they released the statement in night time.
- Because they used the word "unless" in their statement (aksi taktirde in Turkish)
- Because they referenced constitution.

Heard nothing else from them.


How dare these ex-Admirals.

 

[Xenon54]

Lets share this here since some seem to have forgotten their history....

 

[mulj]

I followed this issue on media.

Why this statement is a coup statement according to pro-government journalists;

- Because they released the statement in night time.
- Because they used the word "unless" in their statement (aksi taktirde in Turkish)
- Because they referenced constitution.

Heard nothing else from them.


How dare these ex-Admirals.

Man,would you blame them for little bit paranoic responce after 2016? Never the less it does not change the fact of recklessness and lack of insight from officers. This lame exuses about freedom of expressions are lame.

 

[Sinan]

Man,would you blame them for little bit paranoic responce after 2016? Never the less it does not change the fact of recklessness and lack of insight from officers. This lame exuses about freedom of expressions are lame.

I don't analyze issues like this on emotions and rhetoric.

To some constitutional right and rule of law, may sound "lame". I don't think like that. You forget that 2 decades ago, you couldn't go to a university in Turkey with Headscarf. It was also against rule of law and constitutional rights. Today, things became vice versa. Again today's officials not respecting laws. If things go from your persepective, 5 years laters, by your logic people can be fired from state instutions because they pray.

I say, we only follow rule of law, cast aside everything else.

 

[mulj]

I don't analyze issues like this on emotions and rhetoric.

To some constitutional right and rule of law, may sound "lame". I don't think like that. You forget that 2 decades ago, you couldn't go to a university in Turkey with Headscarf. It was also against rule of law and constitutional rights. Today, things became vice versa. Again today's officials not respecting laws. If things go from your persepective, 5 years laters, by your logic people can be fired from state instutions because they pray.

I say, we only follow rule of law, cast aside everything else.

I wish that in matters like this and this is one of the most important amd strategic issues for Turkey, could be avoided standard polarization as modus operandi in turkish politic..., admirals should knew better regardless of current goverment.

 

[CAN_TR]

The funny thing is that people who were praising FETÖ without hiding it and grow up in his schools are free while some retired Admirals (civilians) are in custody because a released letter.
Bu arada acliktan nefesi kokan Yunanlar göbek atiyor.

 

[Huelague]

Turkey remains committed to Montreux treaty: President

President Erdogan says his government currently has no efforts or intention to leave deal governing Bosporus Strait - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Huelague]

"President Erdogan says his government currently has no efforts or intention to leave deal governing Bosporus Strait"​

 

[Xenon54]

Turkey remains committed to Montreux treaty: President

President Erdogan says his government currently has no efforts or intention to leave deal governing Bosporus Strait - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

What now, will the AKPeons defend the treaty or is erdogan also a traitor who hates Turkish hegemony?

 

[mulj]

bad and unnecessary statement, hope his criticizer would apraise him as he reacted by their positions.

 

[Khagan1923]

Maybe one day their turn will come and everybody will point to these events and say ''told you''.

When the day comes they will be begging for the justice they took away from others.

 

[Kartal1]

Everywhere lies.

Ministry of National Defence: Turkey Retired Officers Association (TESUD) and Turkey Retired Sergeants Association (Temadur) President and Board member for accomplishing his visit to the Ministry of National Defense said that they condemn the statement of the admirals.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379058536584523783

Turkey Retired Officers Association (TESUD) statement:
On April 5, 2021, at 13.30, the Chairman of TESUD and the Chairman of TEMAD, together with two members of the board of directors, WERE INVITED to the Ministry of National Defense.

Following the share of information by the Minister of National Defense on the activities of our country and the Turkish Armed Forces, it is stated by the President of TESUD; After expressing that we are proud of the achievements of our Armed Forces in the activities carried out at home and abroad, various issues related to retired officers were brought to the agenda, opinions and suggestions were shared.

NO CONDEMN STATEMENT was used for the declaration of the retired admirals.

It is respectfully announced to the public.