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EXCLUSIVE: Turkey's interior ministry has suspended security cooperation with US​

Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu winding down ties with US security forces as he continues to accuse Washington of playing role in 2016 coup attempt
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Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu delivers a speech during a press conference in Ankara, on April 22, 2019. (AFP)
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Published date: 21 May 2021 11:27 UTC | Last update: 2 hours 3 mins ago


Suleyman Soylu, Turkey's interior minister, has gradually ended all practical cooperation between Turkish security forces and the US government since he entered office in 2016, Middle East Eye can reveal.
Soylu has suspended joint training and programmes between Turkish and American police forces, denied early US access to Turkish police intelligence on suspects, and refused to share information regarding ongoing Turkish investigations with American counterparts, a Turkish official told MEE.
"However, it didn’t completely impede the cooperation with the American authorities, because they were able to receive the relevant information once the investigations have been completed and submitted to the courts,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Soylu and Washington have a longstanding animosity. In 2018, the Trump administration temporarily sanctioned Soylu and Justice Minister Abdulhamit Gul over the arrest and detention of Pastor Andrew Brunson, a US citizen.

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The following year, the US again sanctioned Soylu and other Turkish officials over Turkey’s offensive against US-backed Kurds in northeastern Syria. “There hasn't been any change in my declaration of property since the last sanction,” he joked at the time. "I don’t have any properties in the US.”
Both designations have been short-term and later lifted. Yet they haven't stopped Soylu from stepping up verbal attacks on Washington and distancing his government from the administration of new US President Joe Biden. The interior minister has long accused the US of having a role in the failed 2016 coup, an allegation Washington forcefully denies.
People close to Soylu told MEE that he has always had suspicions over the US, and the sanctions against him only accelerated his steps to suspend cooperation with American security forces.
“The 15 July [coup attempt] in Turkey happened with an order from them [the US],” Soylu said on Wednesday in televised comments. “The UAE and the US are the perpetrators of 15 July. The UAE is the most important operational partner of the US.”
Soylu believes the US was behind the coup because it is harbouring Fethullah Gulen, the alleged mastermind of the putsch, along with his network of followers within the military. “The US sanctioned me two times for just saying that,” Soylu added.
The minister repeated the same allegation against the US in February, which sparked a condemnation and denial from the US State Department.
Soylu on Wednesday also revealed that he didn’t grant a meeting with the US ambassador to Turkey, David Satterfield, even though the embassy was insistent. “I won’t award him any appointment. I would only do it if they begin to show respect to this country,’” he said.
Analysts in Turkey have been sizing up Soylu as a potential successor to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, due to his unmatched popularity within the ranks of the ruling party.
Analysts believe Soylu could be a potential successor to President Erdogan (Reuters)

Analysts believe Soylu could be a potential successor to President Erdogan (Reuters)
The Turkish opposition has recently put significant pressure on Soylu over allegations of mismanagement and corruption raised by Sedat Peker, an organised crime leader based in Dubai. Peker, in a series of videos posted on YouTube, claimed Soylu had been involved in deep state affairs that include turning a blind eye to narcotics trafficking.
Soylu strongly rejected the allegations, saying that Peker was a fugitive from the law who has also been involved with drug trafficking and extortion.
Under Soylu’s watch, the Turkish government has conducted a series of operations targeting drug shipments inside Turkey and international waters, seizing tonnes of cocaine and hashish.


 

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EXCLUSIVE: Turkey's interior ministry has suspended security cooperation with US​

Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu winding down ties with US security forces as he continues to accuse Washington of playing role in 2016 coup attempt
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Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu delivers a speech during a press conference in Ankara, on April 22, 2019. (AFP)
By
Ragip Soylu
in
Ankara
Published date: 21 May 2021 11:27 UTC | Last update: 2 hours 3 mins ago


Suleyman Soylu, Turkey's interior minister, has gradually ended all practical cooperation between Turkish security forces and the US government since he entered office in 2016, Middle East Eye can reveal.
Soylu has suspended joint training and programmes between Turkish and American police forces, denied early US access to Turkish police intelligence on suspects, and refused to share information regarding ongoing Turkish investigations with American counterparts, a Turkish official told MEE.
"However, it didn’t completely impede the cooperation with the American authorities, because they were able to receive the relevant information once the investigations have been completed and submitted to the courts,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Soylu and Washington have a longstanding animosity. In 2018, the Trump administration temporarily sanctioned Soylu and Justice Minister Abdulhamit Gul over the arrest and detention of Pastor Andrew Brunson, a US citizen.

Turkey-US relations sour over Erdogan antisemitism claims
Read More »
The following year, the US again sanctioned Soylu and other Turkish officials over Turkey’s offensive against US-backed Kurds in northeastern Syria. “There hasn't been any change in my declaration of property since the last sanction,” he joked at the time. "I don’t have any properties in the US.”
Both designations have been short-term and later lifted. Yet they haven't stopped Soylu from stepping up verbal attacks on Washington and distancing his government from the administration of new US President Joe Biden. The interior minister has long accused the US of having a role in the failed 2016 coup, an allegation Washington forcefully denies.
People close to Soylu told MEE that he has always had suspicions over the US, and the sanctions against him only accelerated his steps to suspend cooperation with American security forces.
“The 15 July [coup attempt] in Turkey happened with an order from them [the US],” Soylu said on Wednesday in televised comments. “The UAE and the US are the perpetrators of 15 July. The UAE is the most important operational partner of the US.”
Soylu believes the US was behind the coup because it is harbouring Fethullah Gulen, the alleged mastermind of the putsch, along with his network of followers within the military. “The US sanctioned me two times for just saying that,” Soylu added.
The minister repeated the same allegation against the US in February, which sparked a condemnation and denial from the US State Department.
Soylu on Wednesday also revealed that he didn’t grant a meeting with the US ambassador to Turkey, David Satterfield, even though the embassy was insistent. “I won’t award him any appointment. I would only do it if they begin to show respect to this country,’” he said.
Analysts in Turkey have been sizing up Soylu as a potential successor to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, due to his unmatched popularity within the ranks of the ruling party.
Analysts believe Soylu could be a potential successor to President Erdogan (Reuters)

Analysts believe Soylu could be a potential successor to President Erdogan (Reuters)
The Turkish opposition has recently put significant pressure on Soylu over allegations of mismanagement and corruption raised by Sedat Peker, an organised crime leader based in Dubai. Peker, in a series of videos posted on YouTube, claimed Soylu had been involved in deep state affairs that include turning a blind eye to narcotics trafficking.
Soylu strongly rejected the allegations, saying that Peker was a fugitive from the law who has also been involved with drug trafficking and extortion.
Under Soylu’s watch, the Turkish government has conducted a series of operations targeting drug shipments inside Turkey and international waters, seizing tonnes of cocaine and hashish.



I think it’s wise to reduce the cooperation considering the US support on terrorism elements. We should do something similar with EU since they’re allowing terroist elements existence. Plus Turkey should extend terroism person non grata to terrorists and close families. Meaning wife and kids etc. Though I feel at the same time it’s foing overboard...
 

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Did RTE learn english since he's going to be talking with businessmen and not government heads.... :)
 

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There are rumours going around for the upcoming meeting. Some people seem to have hope, but I dont.
 

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Nothing will change. The US comes with demands regarding PKK/YPG, S-400, Eastern Mediterranean even FETO(Gulen movement). We shouldn't bend the knee. The US will eventually understand that it can't counter future threats with its useless money-sucking parasite allies that contribute nothing to the US but with the allies that really matter on the field. If the US doesn't see that well good luck and best wishes for the US against China, Russia, and whatever adversary it has in the game of great power competition. Things will heat up more as time passes so the time is on our side. Maybe a German, Saudi or Greek army will arrive on time to help the US forces against China.
 

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good news for Erdogan, i hope for more of activities like this
 

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It seems that the USA is gonna go all out to topple erdogan
Cant judge them though
Erdo is a pain in the ass for NATO as he is literally destroying the status quo
Two of the factions that used to keep turkey in check internally, by the USA, FETO and HDP are now being cought like flies
Turkey removed the christian control over karabagh; and azerbaijan found that europe was illegally mining gold from there
Turkey is incresing its presence in africa and many african nations prefer it over its european counterpart.....France
Turkey with its geographical position and technology, is bolstering its army indiginously and is now picking fights with greece and growing closer to russia and china..... as a "warn you" sign
USA allies, the UAE, is losing its influence over many african natioms thanks to turkey



The status quo is changing and none likes it
 

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The issue is not changing status quo, or improving our relations and influence. The issue is how they're doing it.

One reason Putin is so powerful is because he controls everything and don't give a damn about his own people. So he can do things faster and not care about the outcome. In my ears it sounds like someone in Turkey.

Trump was pretty much like that too. didn't care and forced his view on everyone. Even now US is suffering under that.
 

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The issue is not changing status quo, or improving our relations and influence. The issue is how they're doing it.

One reason Putin is so powerful is because he controls everything and don't give a damn about his own people. So he can do things faster and not care about the outcome. In my ears it sounds like someone in Turkey.

Trump was pretty much like that too. didn't care and forced his view on everyone. Even now US is suffering under that.
I partially agree with what you say

However erdo isnt like putin, you might laugh at me, but erdo is (surprisingly) more democratic than putin
If putin was ruling turkey instead of erdo rn, there would have been no CHP, HDP or iYi tbh. They would have been in jail and he would be winning by 80% in elections while giving himself new presidential terms by modifying the constitution. However, if it was putin, he would have got his hands on the blue homeland amd didnt give a fq to what europe said and if they want a fight, he would certainly give him one

None of them is perfect; both have their pros and cons

Just my two cents on the issue
 

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