India India - Pakistan Relations

[crixus]

Such claims are as tenous as the claim the NSA has made against India over this incident. To what degree you buy in to these claims pretty well depends on which side of the fence you sit or your geo-political stance.

You talk as if these are incontrevertible facts. Pakistan's most wanted terrorist Altaf Hussain has sat right in middle of London. In fact his MQM even murdered one of their own in London. Yet Altaf still lives in a mansion in London.

As Imran Khan said would UK allow Pakistan a drone attack on him or accept a SSG squad killing him in London? Such issues are complex and not cut/dry like you make out them.

I have no doubt that MQM has recieved funds from India. This even came up in a Metropolitan Police investigation in London when they found large amounts of unexplained cash.

Regarding funds from India to MQM and supporting Altaf hussain .
Is MI6 sleeping when India is funding a terrorist on British soil ?

Sometimes back after the london tube attacks , they said MI6 become most active agency in Pakistan . Do you know when Mumbai attacks happened MI6 even have the browising history of of Lashkar's technical head , when he searched for Indian Naval excercise in Arabian sea

In 2008 Mumbai Attacks, Piles of Spy Data, But an Uncompleted Puzzle

Indian and British intelligence agencies monitored the online activities of a key plotter but couldn’t connect the dots.

www.propublica.org

Regarding Altaf hussian , he might have save lives of Britishers by providing them assets on ground . Still not sure why he supports or helps India in any possible way ?

 

[Jackdaws]

Thats the reason he got kicked out

Nah, he got kicked out because he wasn't a Modi lackey.

 

[Nilgiri]

Is MI6 sleeping when India is funding a terrorist on British soil ?

First Pakistan ought to make the case that Altaf Hussain is a terrorist to British authorities and extradite him.

It should also declare the MQM a terrorist organisation/affiliate and ban the party (if the splintering+renewal cannot be taken at face value w.r.t Altafbhai tentacles still within it).

I say that given the far higher economic relationship/sustenance Pakistan has with UK (compared to India) and far better relations it has with UK (compared to India)....and its continued assertion for some time now on how clear cut Altafbhai role is within Karachi armed-thug-cartels etc.

If all that stuff is going nowhere, no one is going to take their other accusations (from whichever mouthpiece person in the musical chairs) seriously.

If you cannot sink a simple lined up shot on pool table, no one going to take your claims on fancy trick shot too credibly.

Shenanigans like publishing some "dossier" on RAW and sending it to every foreign embassy while on the FATF grey list yourself....only undermine own credibility.

 

[Jackdaws]

Such claims are as tenous as the claim the NSA has made against India over this incident. To what degree you buy in to these claims pretty well depends on which side of the fence you sit or your geo-political stance.

You talk as if these are incontrevertible facts. Pakistan's most wanted terrorist Altaf Hussain has sat right in middle of London. In fact his MQM even murdered one of their own in London. Yet Altaf still lives in a mansion in London.

I don't know enough about Hussain. But if he is a terrorist responsible for deaths in Pak, Pak has every right to extradite him and try him.

 

[crixus]

Nah, he got kicked out because he wasn't a Modi lackey.

When you get hired due to same reason you get kicked out , you have no reason to complain ...believe me no NRI should be given any sensitive position in govt. , they should surrender the status before accepting such positions

 

[VCheng]

It wont be a direct intense impulse, Indian power is not going to grow that suddenly to do such anyway...rather it will be thermostat ramp largely commensurate to how the disparity in the relative economic and power levels evolve this decade.

Recent example:

Pakistan PM postpones UK tour, wanted pact similar to India: report

Islamabad [Pakistan], June 22 (ANI): Pakistan Prime Minister and former international cricketer Imran Khan's scheduled visit to the UK next month, has been postponed after Islamabad was not satisfied with the Boris Johnson government's offer for something more substantial than a cricket match...

www.aninews.in

Imran postpones UK visit

LONDON: Prime Minister Imran Khan's visit to the UK, scheduled for next month, will not go ahead as Pakistan wanted engagement with the UK beyond just a cricket match and a ceremonial meeting, while...

www.thenews.com.pk

How to boil a frog - continued.

 

[VCheng]

@Nilgiri @VCheng You both boys keep circling yourself and massaging the mantra 'Pakistan be finished'. They been saying that for 70 years. Pakistan will prosper and be a better place to live then India. I have no doubt about it.

And @Nilgiri you keep ranting about this 'demographic bomb'. Few facts you should know. Pakistan's population growth rate has been falling. So the trend is downwards. Furthermpre the reduction is most profound in the most populous province Punjab. Even Karachi is slowing after the floodgates from India have been shut down.

Most of the growth that is now talking place is on the more sparsely populated western province of Khyber Pakhtunkwa and Balochistan. These areas have plenty of space to cope with increase.

You should worry more about the crucible of Indic civilization that is the Ganga basin where even rivers are populated with numbers. States like Utter Pradesh, Bihar etc.

Please see the above.

 

[Nilgiri]

Thread merged with India-Pakistan relations thread archive.

Posting memes and ad-hominem pictures is flamebait and not allowed in this forum in regular threads (there is a specific meme thread for memes).

I did not issue warnings this time since there was a more light-hearted moment in the middle at least....and stuck to editing out the memes while letting both sides air out their opinion of the other.

Relevant parties will get warnings next time I see memes and such pictures that seek to flamebait.

If forum rules are broken, members are again advised to not reply/escalate but hit report button or tag me directly. I will get to it (about once a day) when I am online.

Persistent behaviour will earn you thread bans and worse. This is the last warning to not flamebait and/or escalate anywhere in this forum.

Do your bit to help the mod nip things in bud rather than waste his time and create an even more foul repetitive environment to deal with.

Are you saying anything new to the usual topic like this that comes up? If not, best let it go and just report person that tries to start a flamebait.

 

[Jackdaws]

More news coming in. So much for the LoC ceasefire.

J&K: Heavy exchange of fire on LoC as infiltration bid foiled in Sunderbani sector

A heavy exchange of fire has been reported on LoC in Sunderbani sector of Rajouri district as another infiltration bid was foiled by the Army.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[kumata]

More news coming in. So much for the LoC ceasefire.

J&K: Heavy exchange of fire on LoC as infiltration bid foiled in Sunderbani sector

A heavy exchange of fire has been reported on LoC in Sunderbani sector of Rajouri district as another infiltration bid was foiled by the Army.

www.indiatoday.in

Well... history will repeat hopefully.

 

[Raptor]

More news coming in. So much for the LoC ceasefire.

J&K: Heavy exchange of fire on LoC as infiltration bid foiled in Sunderbani sector

A heavy exchange of fire has been reported on LoC in Sunderbani sector of Rajouri district as another infiltration bid was foiled by the Army.

www.indiatoday.in

Good riddance,this fake ceasefire should end.

 

[Nilgiri]

Since members are not dropping it, the flamebait reply chain is being deleted. You have all said what you need to say to the other.

Leave it at that.

Get back on topic....and dont make it a personal-animus last word flamebait thread.

I see a report come my way or admin alert, and entire convo gets the flamethrower. Its that simple.

If folks want to reply/post things (from those deleted replies) but without taking usual potshots at members and/or entire countries, they can do so....but I advise them for the last time to read the forum rules.

I will not repeat this again. It will be straight ban for you next.

 

[kumata]

Somebody need to tell this retard that it's POK which is dying to merge with real Kashmir. He should be worried about POK , More so since taliban is back in Afghanistan and his Masters will not come to protect him.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1414797435818369025

 

[Jackdaws]

Somebody need to tell this retard that it's POK which is dying to merge with real Kashmir. He should be worried about POK , More so since taliban is back in Afghanistan and his Masters will not come to protect him.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1414797435818369025

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He knows and every Pakistani worth his salt knows they aren't getting anything. Crying about it every few days on social media is for internal consumption in Pak for the Induranis.

 

[kumata]

Pakistan Earns Whopping $10mn From CanSino Vaccine Phase 3 Trials

Major General Amir Ikram revealed that Pakistan has earned $10 million from conducting three-phase trials of the Chinese vaccine CanSino.

www.bolnews.com

What i don;t get is

1. if pakistani;s are being used as guine pigs for chinese vaccine testing​
2. what locus standi a general have on civilian matter of vaccination...​
3. Pureland Army Gernails are heads of health institutions also... I knew they are into bussiness of biscuits, food export, Meat export but this is new...​

Major General Amir Ikram revealed that Pakistan has earned $10 million from conducting three-phase trials of the Chinese vaccine CanSino.

The head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) was addressing a function in the city where he revealed that many countries want to hold their Phase 3 trials in Pakistan. “These experiments can bring in millions of dollars,” he said.

He further said that Pakistan has also started the co-production of the COVID-19 vaccine with Ecdos adenovirus (Ad5) in combination with Kenso Bio at NIH Islamabad, and claimed that within a year, he expects to earn about 30 million joint vaccine development in the country.

Furthermore, he said, “These projects have opened the door to many such opportunities for Pakistan and now a number of biotechnology companies from the UK, Korea, Japan and indeed China have agreed to conduct Phase-II clinical trials of their vaccines in Pakistan.

 

[Raptor]

Somebody need to tell this retard that it's POK which is dying to merge with real Kashmir. He should be worried about POK , More so since taliban is back in Afghanistan and his Masters will not come to protect him.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1414797435818369025

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Kashmir is gone case now for them.
His rants doesn't change the equation

 

[kumata]

Kashmir is gone case now for them.
His rants doesn't change the equation

He is just keeping the domestic audience interested, Playing to the gallery of ISI & his masters in Army, Nothing else. Pakistan should be staring at famine shortly, once india have build the dams on indus / cheenab as per the Indus valley treaty . He should concentrate on getting his people out of poverty and terrorism

 

[Blank1]

You realize that Pakistan lost most engagements with India right?

Like the one in 2019 ?

 

[LegionnairE]

Like the one in 2019 ?

Something happened in 2019?

2019 India–Pakistan border skirmishes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

you mean this?

tiny little border skirmish, where pakistan lost an F16?

 

[Blank1]

Something happened in 2019?

2019 India–Pakistan border skirmishes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

you mean this?

tiny little border skirmish, where pakistan lost an F16?

Not want to derail the thread and tell yourself whats comforts you.