TR Politics

[TheInsider]

That 1900km long pipeline won't happen. It is not financially feasible.

 

[Sinan]

Nice read, they basically summarized my posts.

When Erdogan's Turkish economic miracle began failing

Five years after President Tayyip Erdogan saw off a coup, his chances of extending his rule into a third decade may depend on whether he can reverse an economic decline that has seen Turks' prosperity, equality and employment fall since 2013.

www.reuters.com

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1416120925314027532

Nothing to do with Turkish politics this video. But its the wording of it here a Christian Nation.

What constitutes a country with a religious face. We hear how Turkey is called a Muslim country or a Muslim nation. In Australia the same arguments here too it is a Christian country or a Christian nation.

What constitutes it the population or the laws?? Usa is not ran by Christian law. Turkey is also not ran by Islamic Law neither is Australia ran by any sort of Christian law.

Its easy to say the population is what makes it but in reality its contradictory as Turkey, Usa and various countries around the world are Secular.

UK, Greece, Norway also have state religions. Hence why some question them being fully secular. Even if they are does not make them secular 100% a secular state cant have a state religion.

USA is a secular state but its interesting on how much Christians especially evangelicals influence the government when a secular state is supposed to be neutral when it comes to religious affairs as politicians cant evoke religion as that breaks neutrality.

In Turkey we have this too for example Erdogan does not mind evoking religion regardless if its for votes or due to identity or culture. I know its easy to dismiss Islam in the country but the religion has been in Turkey for centuries while influencing the country for centuries.

I dont believe Turkey is a Muslim country it is a secular state with a Muslim majority. For everybody do you think the majority of the population of a country makes it a country of the religion or is it the government and the laws that make the country and not the population itself?

 

[mulj]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1416120925314027532

Nothing to do with Turkish politics this video. But its the wording of it here a Christian Nation.

What constitutes a country with a religious face. We hear how Turkey is called a Muslim country or a Muslim nation. In Australia the same arguments here too it is a Christian country or a Christian nation.

What constitutes it the population or the laws?? Usa is not ran by Christian law. Turkey is also not ran by Islamic Law neither is Australia ran by any sort of Christian law.

Its easy to say the population is what makes it but in reality its contradictory as Turkey, Usa and various countries around the world are Secular.

UK, Greece, Norway also have state religions. Hence why some question them being fully secular. Even if they are does not make them secular 100% a secular state cant have a state religion.

USA is a secular state but its interesting on how much Christians especially evangelicals influence the government when a secular state is supposed to be neutral when it comes to religious affairs as politicians cant evoke religion as that breaks neutrality.

In Turkey we have this too for example Erdogan does not mind evoking religion regardless if its for votes or due to identity or culture. I know its easy to dismiss Islam in the country but the religion has been in Turkey for centuries while influencing the country for centuries.

I dont believe Turkey is a Muslim country it is a secular state with a Muslim majority. For everybody do you think the majority of the population of a country makes it a country of the religion or is it the government and the laws that make the country and not the population itself?

No need to compare Turkey, conservatives in Turkey by my impression are far more consistent in terms of attitudes amd values preservations.
On the other hand this usa conservatism is mash mix of vierd demographics, they are spent force, last scandal about them was couple of days ago, they expelled porn star from some republican conference after some protest, it is ridicoulus to consider them conservatives when they have nothing to conserve anymore. His speach is just sharade for minority who left and they are irrelevant in future political projections.

 

[Ryder]

No need to compare Turkey, conservatives in Turkey by my impression are far more consistent in terms of attitudes amd values preservations.
On the other hand this usa conservatism is mash mix of vierd demographics, they are spent force, last scandal about them was couple of days ago, they expelled porn star from some republican conference after some protest, it is ridicoulus to consider them conservatives when they have nothing to conserve anymore. His speach is just sharade for minority who left and they are irrelevant in future political projections.

Yeah I know the thing is when the USA was founded the founding fathers were classical liberals and secular. They were also freemasons.

Usa might be influenced by chrisitanity but its also influenced by Ancient Greece, Rome and the Age of Enlightenment. It is said even the founding fathers were influenced by Islam. This does not make the constitution, sharia law of course.

Napoleon Bonaparte made the Napoleonic code it is said he also grabbed some ideals from Islam.

Interesting really.

 

[mulj]

Yeah I know the thing is when the USA was founded the founding fathers were classical liberals and secular. They were also freemasons.

Usa might be influenced by chrisitanity but its also influenced by Ancient Greece, Rome and the Age of Enlightenment. It is said even the founding fathers were influenced by Islam. This does not make the constitution, sharia law of course.

Napoleon Bonaparte made the Napoleonic code it is said he also grabbed some ideals from Islam.

Interesting really.

That is true about influence, they did not have any other foundation for freedom of religion beside what islam said about it. Those so called fathers were grimmed persons but nation have to idolize something i suppose.

 

[Glass🚬]

Maybe he can also stop deporting uyghurs lol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417854127309312001

As predicted he doesnt know how to solve it and since he doesnt know how to solve it, he will be voted out. Thats really easy to understand, if there is a collective consensus among ur population that things need to change then u better follow trough.

 

[Titanium100]

Maybe he can also stop deporting uyghurs lol

As predicted he doesnt know how to solve it and since he doesnt know how to solve it, he will be voted out. Thats really easy to understand, if there is a collective consensus among ur population that things need to change then u better follow trough.

Why throw out extra manpower that is usuful against PKK.. They have done good work on PKK Turkey has now breathing space

 

[Anastasius]

Yeah I know the thing is when the USA was founded the founding fathers were classical liberals and secular. They were also freemasons.

Usa might be influenced by chrisitanity but its also influenced by Ancient Greece, Rome and the Age of Enlightenment. It is said even the founding fathers were influenced by Islam. This does not make the constitution, sharia law of course.

Napoleon Bonaparte made the Napoleonic code it is said he also grabbed some ideals from Islam.

Interesting really.

The US Capitol building has plagues of 23 notable historical figures who laid down legal principles that underpin US law. Suleiman the Magnificent is one of them.

Maybe he can also stop deporting uyghurs lol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417854127309312001

As predicted he doesnt know how to solve it and since he doesnt know how to solve it, he will be voted out. Thats really easy to understand, if there is a collective consensus among ur population that things need to change then u better follow trough.

He's digging his own grave at this point. Selling Uyghurs to China is apparently fine but illegal migrants are too precious to throw out. I think he knows that he's lost the Turkish public at this point and is banking hard on the hardcore Islamists and migrants who don't want to leave.

What's the process for early elections in Turkey?

 

[Ryder]

The US Capitol building has plagues of 23 notable historical figures who laid down legal principles that underpin US law. Suleiman the Magnificent is one of them.



He's digging his own grave at this point. Selling Uyghurs to China is apparently fine but illegal migrants are too precious to throw out. I think he knows that he's lost the Turkish public at this point and is banking hard on the hardcore Islamists and migrants who don't want to leave.

What's the process for early elections in Turkey?

Arent Islamists in Turkey concerned about the Uygurs too. If erdogan is selling them out to China that does not sit well with Ummah and Islamist types who go with that all Muslims are brothers.

 

[Titanium100]

Arent Islamists in Turkey concerned about the Uygurs too. If erdogan is selling them out to China that does not sit well with Ummah and Islamist types who go with that all Muslims are brothers.

Is this not some sort of evil slender against Erdogan when has he sold Uighurs? People nowadays read fake news assumptions and than go to social medias thinking this is a ground reality or something that has occured... God safe us from social media and fake news... I have even noticed some elements of the public seems to cling on fake news and search hope in fake news..

Turkey's foreign minister said in March the extradition deal was similar to those Turkey has with other states and denied it would lead to Uyghurs being sent back to China.

China herself would never demand return of the Uighurs not to upset relations because it knows Turkey won't do that but fake news has become absolute cancerous to society nowadays

 

[Titanium100]

Erdogan's party should start making more law suits against defamations and fake news just like how Meral Akşener savaged Erdogan these liberals are aggressive in Turkey and sometimes go overboard and I would say majority of the time.

• May 20 2021 13:51:38

Erdoğan files lawsuit against opposition İYİ Party leader Akşener​

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan filed a lawsuit against İYİ (Good) Party chairwoman Meral Akşener for resembling him to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and demanded 250,000 Turkish Liras in compensation.

Akşener, at her party’s parliamentary group meeting on May 18, described Netanyahu as the “Israeli version of Erdoğan,” while slamming the Israeli government

 

[Anastasius]

Is this not some sort of evil slender against Erdogan when has he sold Uighurs? People nowadays read fake news assumptions and than go to social medias thinking this is a ground reality or something that has occured... God safe us from social media and fake news... I have even noticed some elements of the public seems to cling on fake news and search hope in fake news..

Turkey's foreign minister said in March the extradition deal was similar to those Turkey has with other states and denied it would lead to Uyghurs being sent back to China.

China herself would never demand return of the Uighurs not to upset relations because it knows Turkey won't do that but fake news has become absolute cancerous to society nowadays

You are Pakistani my friend, you have your own reasons to defend China's actions because they protect you from India. But no, it's not slander. Reports have come out already about Uyghurs getting "removed".

China would absolutely demand such a thing. You only need to pay attention to how China conducts itself in other foreign policy matters.

 

[Anastasius]

Lol India is a land of peasants we don't need any protection from these peasants we ruled for 1000 years.. Pakistan has ambitions to take India not the other way around.. India is not even viewed as major threat anymore but this time the western border in Afghanistan.. My opinion is valid you are an azeri.. I believe our opinion stands equal.. I am against fake news by all means and necessary.. It doesn't matter who it is against but it should not be spread out

Very well, I won't say anymore. "Protect" was probably the wrong word to use, let's just say they are a useful ally to Pakistan. My only point was that you may be biased somewhat in this matter because of your nationality and your country's relation to India and lack of any particular ethnic attachment to Uyghurs, which I do not think applies to me as an Azeri or to the Turkish members of the forum.

I do not think there is much fake news about Erdogan. Him suing Aksener because she compared him to Netanyahu doesn't scream fighting fake news, it screams thin-skinned man.

 

[Titanium100]

Very well, I won't say anymore. "Protect" was probably the wrong word to use, let's just say they are a useful ally to Pakistan. My only point was that you may be biased somewhat in this matter because of your nationality and your country's relation to India and lack of any particular ethnic attachment to Uyghurs, which I do not think applies to me as an Azeri or to the Turkish members of the forum.

I do not think there is much fake news about Erdogan. Him suing Aksener because she compared him to Netanyahu doesn't scream fighting fake news, it screams thin-skinned man.

Some may agree with his policies but there is alot of fake news out there and the Uighur one is the biggest of them while in truth 80% of everything related to the uighurs is fake news just looking at it pragmatically

 

[Raptor]

Very well, I won't say anymore. "Protect" was probably the wrong word to use, let's just say they are a useful ally to Pakistan. My only point was that you may be biased somewhat in this matter because of your nationality and your country's relation to India and lack of any particular ethnic attachment to Uyghurs, which I do not think applies to me as an Azeri or to the Turkish members of the forum.

I do not think there is much fake news about Erdogan. Him suing Aksener because she compared him to Netanyahu doesn't scream fighting fake news, it screams thin-skinned man.

Well the Pakistanis consider very high of themselves,they think themselves as having some value in military,diplomacy&economy,while they stand nowhere when compared to boasting they do,ofcourse they need China's help.

Turkey should improve relations with India it's good for both nations.

 

[TheInsider]

Maybe he can also stop deporting uyghurs lol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417854127309312001

As predicted he doesnt know how to solve it and since he doesnt know how to solve it, he will be voted out. Thats really easy to understand, if there is a collective consensus among ur population that things need to change then u better follow trough.

You read that wrong. Erdo tells the EU and the US that as long as I'm in power I can keep refugees but if I'm gone you guys will have millions of refugees at your doors. He is very experienced when it comes to political messages.

 

[Nilgiri]

Imagine (as an outsider) telling the Turks that you know more about them on topic of Uighurs (what is "propaganda" and not). Not one basic concept of why this forum was even formed in first place (given what was squelched vs bullhorned among many other things in earlier one).

Yes there are apparently no Uighurs in Turkey (and who have been interviewed at length) to talk about the issue at hand with Turks. There are no Tibetans in India either....woe is us too...it just propaganda.

Then you also conveniently know more about Erdogan approach to things too.

Then you have the typical deja-vu gall to have DANE-DANE flag like the DUTCH-DUTCH guy ("we turk" guy that knows hindi and loves the taliban and CCP in equal measure... ticking all the checkboxes of rarest kind of "Turk" indeed).

All the while you typical types hating on western liberal-secular system that provides platform and basic sustenance for you in first place (assuming residence flag is true).

What is basic requirement to be consistent (if you hate the country system you live in especially....magazine cartoons and all)?

Doesn't it start in having origin flag as an actual true one? Or you gonna speak collectively for Danes and Dutch and whomever else (double British and double American flags fester in the green forum source lol) being super into your take on matters?

The hypocrite clown parade sure is growing.....having some huge expectation on this forum to have the same "system" of the green one they fester in.

Not one basic finger to wind and slightest approach to not being tone-deaf as a starter. Let me guess probably typical "im so edgy" zoomer too.

Then they whinge about "Islamist" being a bad word lmao.

While calling my nation "peasants"....for the typical downstream convert larping as invader.

Little loudmouth one, that language is something for your "10:1" mard-e-momin "1000 more years" elite "men at arms" to have told us to our face at the dhaka maidan.

Whole divisions of them.

Instead they looked down at the grass and chucked their pistols glumly (many crying)....as that was the last desperate way to stay alive and get home.... given what they had done to the population (now baying for blood).

Real tough guys in the end.

Those "best" guys were good at waging war on women and children as the Bengalis will tell you like no one else can (or are they not muslim enough still?)...and did diddly squat except fold in no time (2 weeks?) when push come to shove against an actual army.

Even though you share the same psyche as them young one....they put themselves on the line and gave some account of themselves in the highest stakes, they are actual faces on actual photos.

They were and are not anonymous clowns behind a keyboard. They had and have that going for them at least....most unlike you.

On internet you can play whatever game you want, as long as you want and never need to worry about aukat shown to you in a real way like people that actually care to stand for something in the first place.

In the end you just provide highlight reel for everyone else to look at and chuckle....and wonder what volume setting is really the highest....the hypocrisy, cringe or idiocy.

You are your own worst enemy. Enjoy dealing with that.

 

[LegionnairE]

Why throw out extra manpower that is usuful against PKK.. They have done good work on PKK Turkey has now breathing space

Absolute garbage opinion. We don't need to host 5,3 million Syrians just to have some mercenaries.

Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and arguably the strongest army in the region.

We don't need mercenaries period.

Nobody wants them, even including most AKP voters. They will be gone after 2023.

 

[mulj]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1418430786659749894