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Strong AI · Monday at 5:32 AM

Strong AI said:
100% SUCCESS FROM THE NEW ACTOR IN AIR DEFENCE!

The #MKE #TOLGA SHORAD firing test observed live by nearly 100 high-level participants from the Turkish Armed Forces and various security units were completed with 100% success.

The MKE TOLGA Short-Range Air Defence System is designed to counter the rising threats of mini/micro UAVs, tactical drones, smart munitions, and cruise missiles on today’s battlefield.

With MKE Tolga Ammunition specially developed for the weapons integrated into the system and programmed to detonate near the target and disperse fragments and with every component produced by MKE, the MKE TOLGA SHORAD offers a complete system solution.
It combines electronic warfare, anti-drone ammunition, weapons of various calibres, and a command and control system that brings detection, tracking, and neutralisation capabilities under one roof:

Up to 10,000 metres with a mobile radar station capable of tracking and surveillance, electro-optical system, and jammer
3,000 metres with the 35 mm Tolga Weapon System
1,000 metres with the 20 mm Tolga Weapon System
300 metres with the 12.7 mm Tolga Weapon Systems

Together, these provide effective protection by neutralising hostile drones and aerial threats.

#TheRisingPowerMKE

This is important.

"Today, the fact that all planned scenarios were carried out smoothly and successfully, and that most targets were neutralized with very little ammunition, many in the first burst of just three to four rounds, is a major achievement and has given us great confidence," he said.

"We have completed the groundwork for mass production. We are ready to begin large-scale production for both the ammunition and weapon components," he added.

Türkiye’s Tolga air defense system downs drones in successful test | Daily Sabah

Türkiye's defense company MKE successfully tested its new anti-drone system named Tolga, neutralizing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) as part of a...

www.dailysabah.com

OPTIMUS · Monday at 1:14 PM

Huelague said:
I heard it otherwise. Dont forget, some defence cooperations are unofficial.

the other way around. At the moment, MKE is helping Rheinmetall.

You are exposed to German propaganda.

There was assistance from Rheinmetall back then in the modernization of MKE's casting facilities regarding the 120 mm tank gun. Rheinmetall built vertical casting facilities at MKE and entrusted this method to MKE. Since the relations between Israel and Turkey have collapsed, the German arms industry denies any cooperation with Turkey. German politics has little influence on the industry. The German arms industry was firmly under Jewish control before World War II and is still under Jewish control today.

Huelague · Monday at 6:13 PM

OPTIMUS said:
the other way around. At the moment, MKE is helping Rheinmetall.

You are exposed to German propaganda.

There was assistance from Rheinmetall back then in the modernization of MKE's casting facilities regarding the 120 mm tank gun. Rheinmetall built vertical casting facilities at MKE and entrusted this method to MKE. Since the relations between Israel and Turkey have collapsed, the German arms industry denies any cooperation with Turkey. German politics has little influence on the industry. The German arms industry was firmly under Jewish control before World War II and is still under Jewish control today.

Yes, we are helping Germany at the moment. Nothing you said (including your conspiracy theory), Is in contradiction what I have said. I am exposed to nothing, but able to listen Parliamentary Inquiry. Some are denied and some are answered. I listened to this who are asking the defense co-operation between Türkiye and Germanys (secret) defense industry.

mTT · 2025-11-18T03:50:47-0600

SİPER 1 – Autonomous Battery Firing

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1990718645316514016

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Pokemonte13 · 2025-11-18T05:20:25-0600

What does Autonomous mean?

Yasar_TR · 2025-11-18T06:56:28-0600

Pokemonte13 said:
What does Autonomous mean?

My understanding is: without someone pressing “fire” button.
System’s own radar recognises threat and it fires an interceptor missile by itself after targeting it.

Khagan1923 · 2025-11-18T06:56:56-0600

Pokemonte13 said:
What does Autonomous mean?

Well usually it would mean no human-input. Meaning the System recognized a threat on its own and fired the missiles on its own as well. But here we see the missiles being fired by a person, so who knows.

begturan · 2025-11-18T09:10:11-0600

Yasar_TR said:
My understanding is: without someone pressing “fire” button.
System’s own radar recognises threat and it fires an interceptor missile by itself after targeting it.

Yes, this makes sense. As far as I understand, autonomous mode is used in a saturation attack on a country. AI coordinates layered air defense systems based on the type of missile launched, directing the most suitable air defense system to the attacking missile, focusing on minimum ammunition and maximum target destruction.

Furthermore, electronic warfare interception and decoy ammunition discrimination should also be factored into the equation.

This should provide benefits such as rapid reaction, prudent use of ammunition, and the ability to select the most suitable weapon and maintain a significant ammunition stockpile effectively.

Thus, if we encounter a situation similar to Iran's ballistic missile attack on Israel, the chain of command will be able to better manage the situation and utilize the ammunition stockpile effectively.

After being subjected to a surprise attack, the command echelon can quickly assess the situation and consider counter moves.

Zafer · 2025-11-18T09:59:18-0600

Target plane was under tracking so it won't matter if the missile is fired by a person or by the machine. The person can only know what the machine reports, once firing requirements are fed into the machine it can fire the missile itself.

Yasar_TR · 2025-11-18T10:21:40-0600

Khagan1923 said:
Well usually it would mean no human-input. Meaning the System recognized a threat on its own and fired the missiles on its own as well. But here we see the missiles being fired by a person, so who knows.

Bro, not usually!
It means “without human intervention”

“Autonomous firing of a missile" means to be able to independently select and engage a target without continuous, real-time human intervention in the critical functions of searching, detecting, identifying, and launching an attack.

OPTIMUS · 2025-11-18T10:44:50-0600

Huelague said:
Yes, we are helping Germany at the moment. Nothing you said (including your conspiracy theory), Is in contradiction what I have said. I am exposed to nothing, but able to listen Parliamentary Inquiry. Some are denied and some are answered. I listened to this who are asking the defense co-operation between Türkiye and Germanys (secret) defense industry.

Conspiracy theory!!!

Then I ask you, what?

Have you also heard that German weapons deliveries to Israel will resume as normal starting Monday? At Israel's request...

I don't like to say this, but we are exposed to propaganda, it cannot be stopped. And in Germany, Israeli propaganda is always running at full speed.

The reason why the arms deliveries to Israel are being approved, I will tell you now. Hold on tight.

Because Israel is no longer attacking the Gaza Strip so intensely!!!!!

In Germany, politics is determined by industry. It doesn't matter who is in power. Whatever the automotive, pharmaceutical, and weapons industries say is implemented through politics. The end!!!

OPTIMUS · 2025-11-18T12:20:49-0600

So that you can understand it better, I would like to post the link here. What is a weapon under German law – please read part 2

www.recht.bund.de/bgbl/1/2024/243/VO.html

Huelague · 2025-11-18T16:26:24-0600

OPTIMUS said:
Conspiracy theory!!!

Then I ask you, what?

Have you also heard that German weapons deliveries to Israel will resume as normal starting Monday? At Israel's request...

I don't like to say this, but we are exposed to propaganda, it cannot be stopped. And in Germany, Israeli propaganda is always running at full speed.

The reason why the arms deliveries to Israel are being approved, I will tell you now. Hold on tight.

Because Israel is no longer attacking the Gaza Strip so intensely!!!!!

In Germany, politics is determined by industry. It doesn't matter who is in power. Whatever the automotive, pharmaceutical, and weapons industries say is implemented through politics. The end!!!

Im aware of this. Im closely following the BPK.

Afif · 2025-11-19T03:43:48-0600

Did you guys watch the video? It seems someone is pressing the 'fire' button.

Sanchez · 2025-11-19T04:46:23-0600

Pokemonte13 said:
What does Autonomous mean?

I think it just means it's not a theater level engagement of the battery but unit level one. We also can't see the search radar(ALP-300G); only the fire control radar(Akrep-1000G) on the video. It's a test of a "blinded" Siper battery without access to its search radar's or of any other systems in the Steel Dome picture.

It has nothing to do with AI features.

Ripley · 2025-11-19T06:36:08-0600

Sanchez said:
I think it just means it's not a theater level engagement of the battery but unit level one. We also can't see the search radar(ALP-300G); only the fire control radar(Akrep-1000G) on the video. It's a test of a "blinded" Siper battery without access to its search radar's or of any other systems in the Steel Shield picture.

It has nothing to do with AI features.

So, it’s a standalone unit cut off from network working in full automation (human still in the loop), right?

Yasar_TR · 2025-11-19T06:52:23-0600

Sanchez said:
I think it just means it's not a theater level engagement of the battery but unit level one. We also can't see the search radar(ALP-300G); only the fire control radar(Akrep-1000G) on the video. It's a test of a "blinded" Siper battery without access to its search radar's or of any other systems in the Steel Shield picture.

It has nothing to do with AI features.

So let me try to understand this and translate it for us mere mortals:
There was no search radar present with the unit. It received search data from elsewhere. It was manually fired and fire control radar and/or its onboard seeker guided it to target.

Ripley said:
So, it’s a standalone unit cut off from network working in full automation (human still in the loop), right?

That shouldn’t work. It has to receive data from a search radar regrading the presence and position of target. It is not cut off from network. On the contrary. It is connected. But not sending signals to protect its position from being discovered.

At least that is what I understand from @Sanchez ’s explanation . Please correct me if I am wrong.

EDIT:

Also the Turkish word “Otonom” being of foreign origin is most likely used in slightly different meaning here.

Afif · 2025-11-19T07:15:16-0600

Yasar_TR said:
So let me try to understand this and translate it for us mere mortals:
There was no search radar present with the unit. It received search data from elsewhere. It was manually fired and fire control radar and/or its onboard seeker guided it to target.

That shouldn’t work. It has to receive data from a search radar regrading the presence and position of target. It is not cut off from network. On the contrary. It is connected. But not sending signals to protect its position from being discovered.

At least that is what I understand from @Sanchez ’s explanation . Please correct me if I am wrong.

EDIT:

Also the Turkish word “Otonom” being of foreign origin is most likely used in slightly different meaning here.

I think AKREP-1000G can perform both search and track in emergency situation (where primary search radar is out of commission) as it is in principle a Multi-function AESA array.

This test was meant to demonstrate that.

Atleast this is what I understood from @Sanchez 'blinded' unit level engagement comment.

Sanchez · 2025-11-19T08:08:02-0600

Afif said:
I think AKREP-1000G can perform both search and track in emergency situation (where primary search radar is out of commission) as it is in principle a Multi-function AESA array.

This test was meant to demonstrate that.

Atleast this is what I understood from @Sanchez 'blinded' unit level engagement comment.

Indeed, Akrep-1000G is multifunction radar capable of undertaking search duties as well:

"AKREP 1000-G is a radar system developed with Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) architecture, capable of both rotating and stationary operation, performing search and precision tracking functions."

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/aselsan_dergi_120_092024.pdf

Yasar_TR said:
Also the Turkish word “Otonom” being of foreign origin is most likely used in slightly different meaning here.

Think of Hisar A+ Otonom, it's also designed to be able to work by itself, not as part of the whole architecture. There's nothing "autonomous" as in unmanned about it, except for being a system that can undertake all its mission set by itself. Word here mean something like "All-in-One", not unmanned. Like Spyder AiO.

Another example would be Korkut. A "Korkut System" is 3 fires vehicles and a command vehicle. But each fires vehicle can also work autonomously by themselves utilizing stricter search functions like their tracking radar and EO systems, without the MAR search radar on the command vehicle.

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