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I wanted to ask for a while, but keep forgetting, but looking at Sea of Islands (Aegean), what type of naval vessel would be good for patroling the area ?

If we implement a Smart Buoy network for various reasons we've mentioned in the past. What type of Naval vessel would be ideal to patrol the area ?
A usv mothership (imo a catamaran for lower draft and more workspace) loaded with air defence up top (CIWS and PDMS) and workshop within to rearm and resupply usvs on the go. Mothership can have a codlad, or something similar, drive and cruise on electric power while USV are deploy and either defend an area or attack, or recon through them, keeping it hundreds of kms away from enemy ships.
 

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I wanted to ask for a while, but keep forgetting, but looking at Sea of Islands (Aegean), what type of naval vessel would be good for patroling the area ?

If we implement a Smart Buoy network for various reasons we've mentioned in the past. What type of Naval vessel would be ideal to patrol the area ?
Why do i doubt the I+ class:
Navy needs a capable multi purpose ship class for light patrol / flotilla escort duties prioritizing comfort of the crew, endurance, large hangar area for multi-purpose operations
Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.


I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

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BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.
 
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Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.


I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

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BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.
Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.
 

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Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.
İnteresting 🤔 I thought İstif class was cheaper because of light weight.
Beside Turkish Navy, Why would one buy İstif class if it is less cheap, less spacious and less seaworthy?
 

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İnteresting 🤔 I thought İstif class was cheaper because of light weight.
Beside Turkish Navy, Why would one buy İstif class if it is less cheap, less spacious and less seaworthy?
The size (steel + processing + construction) roughly makes 10~15% of the total costs.
On top of that we base base equipment necessary for a ship which is nearly indifferent to size except of the main engines and related auxiliaries.
Then comes the machinery (redundancy) for being a military ship which slightly depends on the size
Then comes the electronics, and then the weapons.

So, you could double size of İstif just for an additional +$70-85 millions (export price, FY2026) which is 15% of the known export price..
 

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The size (steel + processing + construction) roughly makes 10~15% of the total costs.
On top of that we base base equipment necessary for a ship which is nearly indifferent to size except of the main engines and related auxiliaries.
Then comes the machinery (redundancy) for being a military ship which slightly depends on the size
Then comes the electronics, and then the weapons.

So, you could double size of İstif just for an additional +$70-85 millions (export price, FY2026) which is 15% of the known export price..
Appreciate. Absolutely why not. I always wondered how much size effect on total cost.

5500 ton frigate for additional 15 percentage of costs. Sounds interesting 🤔
 

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