TR Navy Naval Programs

[UkroTurk]

I wanted to ask for a while, but keep forgetting, but looking at Sea of Islands (Aegean), what type of naval vessel would be good for patroling the area ?

If we implement a Smart Buoy network for various reasons we've mentioned in the past. What type of Naval vessel would be ideal to patrol the area ?

Why do i doubt the I+ class:
Navy needs a capable multi purpose ship class for light patrol / flotilla escort duties prioritizing comfort of the crew, endurance, large hangar area for multi-purpose operations

Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/thai-navy-selects-south-koreas-hanwha-ocean-for-508m-frigate-contract/4051569

I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.

 

[Anmdt]

Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/thai-navy-selects-south-koreas-hanwha-ocean-for-508m-frigate-contract/4051569

I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

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BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.

Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.

 

[UkroTurk]

Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.

İnteresting I thought İstif class was cheaper because of light weight.
Beside Turkish Navy, Why would one buy İstif class if it is less cheap, less spacious and less seaworthy?

 

[Pokemonte13]

ironically its armament is weaker that on istif

 

[Anmdt]

İnteresting I thought İstif class was cheaper because of light weight.
Beside Turkish Navy, Why would one buy İstif class if it is less cheap, less spacious and less seaworthy?

The size (steel + processing + construction) roughly makes 10~15% of the total costs.
On top of that we base base equipment necessary for a ship which is nearly indifferent to size except of the main engines and related auxiliaries.
Then comes the machinery (redundancy) for being a military ship which slightly depends on the size
Then comes the electronics, and then the weapons.

So, you could double size of İstif just for an additional +$70-85 millions (export price, FY2026) which is 15% of the known export price..

 

[UkroTurk]

The size (steel + processing + construction) roughly makes 10~15% of the total costs.
On top of that we base base equipment necessary for a ship which is nearly indifferent to size except of the main engines and related auxiliaries.
Then comes the machinery (redundancy) for being a military ship which slightly depends on the size
Then comes the electronics, and then the weapons.

So, you could double size of İstif just for an additional +$70-85 millions (export price, FY2026) which is 15% of the known export price..

Appreciate. Absolutely why not. I always wondered how much size effect on total cost.

5500 ton frigate for additional 15 percentage of costs. Sounds interesting

 

[Burberryswine]

what about size ? İ hope will be bigger and with 32 VLS , Just around 130 meter i think will be good to add another 16 VLS system

atp imo a new bigger frigate design is needed perhaps with 32-48 VLS Cells something closer to the fremms in size and displacement to act as heavier Istifs and protect Turkeys interests even further smth with at least 5000-7000nm range.

 

[Fatman17]

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Türkiye's National Aircraft Carrier (MUGEM) project is taking shape as one of the most ambitious Turkish defense industry projects of the past quarter century. Construction began in January 2025, with steel hull blocks now being assembled. The carrier is scheduled to take to the sea in September 2027 and enter service with the Turkish Naval Forces in 2032, when it is expected to become the largest platform ever operated by the force.

Designed to accommodate a crew and military force of approximately 2,500 personnel, MUGEM will be protected by a massive naval task force consisting of different types of warships. The Turkish aircraft carrier will be escorted by domestically developed destroyers, frigates and submarines, as well as air-defense platforms. The carrier is expected to accommodate nearly 50 aircraft of different types. Accompanied by logistics vessels, MUGEM is being designed as the largest warship in the Mediterranean.