TR Navy Naval Programs

[boredaf]

I wanted to ask for a while, but keep forgetting, but looking at Sea of Islands (Aegean), what type of naval vessel would be good for patroling the area ?

If we implement a Smart Buoy network for various reasons we've mentioned in the past. What type of Naval vessel would be ideal to patrol the area ?

A usv mothership (imo a catamaran for lower draft and more workspace) loaded with air defence up top (CIWS and PDMS) and workshop within to rearm and resupply usvs on the go. Mothership can have a codlad, or something similar, drive and cruise on electric power while USV are deploy and either defend an area or attack, or recon through them, keeping it hundreds of kms away from enemy ships.

 

[UkroTurk]

I wanted to ask for a while, but keep forgetting, but looking at Sea of Islands (Aegean), what type of naval vessel would be good for patroling the area ?

If we implement a Smart Buoy network for various reasons we've mentioned in the past. What type of Naval vessel would be ideal to patrol the area ?

Why do i doubt the I+ class:
Navy needs a capable multi purpose ship class for light patrol / flotilla escort duties prioritizing comfort of the crew, endurance, large hangar area for multi-purpose operations

Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/thai-navy-selects-south-koreas-hanwha-ocean-for-508m-frigate-contract/4051569

I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.

 

[Anmdt]

Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/thai-navy-selects-south-koreas-hanwha-ocean-for-508m-frigate-contract/4051569

I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

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BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.

Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.

 

[UkroTurk]

Advantage? It was made to be cheap, that's all, and besides it is more spacious and more seaworthy but i don't think Thai authorities have considered that one rigorously.
Two major advantages;
Cheap
Continuation of the first frigate of the Royal Thai Navy, similar hull, similar deck layout.

İnteresting I thought İstif class was cheaper because of light weight.
Beside Turkish Navy, Why would one buy İstif class if it is less cheap, less spacious and less seaworthy?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Answer should be Offshore Patrol Vessels since they are chosen by Navy.

According to Dear @Anmdt our Navy likes larger and bigger ships rather than they are supposed to be.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/thai-navy-selects-south-koreas-hanwha-ocean-for-508m-frigate-contract/4051569

I would like to really know what is the disadvantages our Istif Class over Korean Hanwha Ocean 40 frigate which won the Thai Navy's bid. Korean ship weights 4000ton. It could be the reason?

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BTW the ship has 2 x Mistral addition to VLS.

We know how capable South Korean naval vessels ndustry and ship building industry is.
But to buy a number of frigates, potentially 3billion dollars in value, without even seeing a built example, but from a drawing, is interesting.
Yes the ship is 124m in length and 4000ton class. Beam is supposed to be 14metres and draft around 4.3m.
It has 16 x single cell VLS system. Each Mistral Simbad RC system hold 2 to 4 missiles. they are very accurate. But it has a max engagement range of 8km and 6km altitude. It is similar to RAM block 1 with less missiles’s.
A 4000ton ship with 8 x AShM (2 sets of 4 missiles for each launcher system) is really below what it should have.
When firing in saturation mode or defending, the ship will expend missiles very quickly.
VL Mica with 60-80 km range and 9km max altitude is single packed. Most naval chiefs would prefer quad packed ESSM-2 s when defending and firing multiple missiles.
As far as I can see, it is an under gunned but elongated version of an İstif ship. But if your navy is already using similar weapons and there is synergy between what you have and what you are getting, then it may be the right choice.