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zeminde sıvılaşma olan bölgelerin terk edilmesi, müteahhitlerin kaçak göçek iş yapmasına fırsat verilmemesi vs
Abicim mümkün değil. Kimse semtini bırakıp gitmez.
İhtiyarlar diyorki "ben yaşayacağımı yaşadım. Evimde öleyim "
Millet üç beş metrekare hesabı yapıyor, aynı kat istiyorken hem de başka semte gidecek??!!
Dükkan sahipleri de pislik çıkarıyor.

Zaten finansal olarak kimsenin binasını yenileme gücü yok.

Bütün fatih semtine yıkım kararı çıkartacaksın, sonra oraya kaç kat imar vereceksin? Aynı binaları yeniden yapmak saçmalık.
 

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O köprüler otobanlar bir deprem anında en büyük hayat kurtarıcı olacak bizim için.
6 Şubat depremi sonrasında bölgeye ulaşımı kolaylaştıran şey o yapılan otobanlardı köprülerdi. Eğer bunlar olmazsa uygun şartlar altında 12 saatte gideceğin yolu 24 saatte gidersin. Bu da kritik yardımları zorlaştırır. Bir de bu köprülerin sağlam yapılması lazım o ayrı konu.

Keza hastaneler de öyle. Deprem anında altında izolatör olmayan hastaneler, 20-30 yıllık hastaneler yıkılmaya mahkumdur. Kritik kamu yatırımlarından ödün vermek intihar etmekle eş değerdir. (Tabi bunlar her şeyin kuralına kaidesine uygun yapılırsa geçerli) Bu açıdan kamu yatırımları/devlet daireleri depreme hazırlığın en ön cephesini oluşturur. Deprem bölgesinde kamu kurumları ayaktaysa devletin müdahalesi daha da kolaylaşacak demektir.

Kentsel dönüşüm de aslında her şey düzgün yapılsa (zeminde sıvılaşma olan bölgelerin terk edilmesi, müteahhitlerin kaçak göçek iş yapmasına fırsat verilmemesi vs) o zaman problem kalmayacakta işte...
Burası Türkiye. Bizim 2 yakamız ne zaman bir araya gelmiş ki şimdi gelsin.
Türkiye genelindeki projeleri kastetmiştim, İstanbul'dakileri değil.

Şu aşamada bizim depremden doğacak hasarı dolaylı olarak hafifletecek projelere değil, doğrudan, henüz deprem olmamışken, yıkılacak binaları depremden önce bizim yıkmamız, sanayiyi İstanbul dışına olabildiğince çabuk ve gerçekçi projelerle taşımak, kentsel dönüşüme warp speed vermek, kentin deprem sonrası telekomünikasyon, ulaşım, geçici barınma, tahliye sorunlarını öngörerek gerekli önlemleri almak gibi çözümlere ihtiyacımız var.

İnsanlar ancak deprem olmadan önce kurtarılabilir. Deprem olduktan sonra kurtarma operasyonları maalesef imkansız.
 

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Bro I moved to a small village partly because of this. I'm now building my house. It'll be done by 3-4 months. And then I will tend to my land. Maybe marry and raise brave sons and virtuous daughters.

If you have the means to get about 10 dönüm of arable land with water and electricity access, I strongly suggest moving to a village. If you have a brain and semi-functioning body you can not only survive but thrive. Bonus points if you have (non-*sshole) family in the place you move in because they help a lot.

Farmers always complain, but one thing I realized since I moved here is farming is an extremely profitable business if you use your head. If you just follow trends you lose, sorta like the stock market. But good thing is if you are willing to do dirty work, it pays a lot because everybody is aged in villages nowadays. If you can handle the itch, farming okra in 3 dönüm land can not only provide you with a quality life, it can be a springboard to greater ventures. It pays really well.

And good thing is you don't even work 5 days a week. You just take a walk in the field everyday, look for signs of worms, larvae, disease or other problems. If you see them you spray the fertilizer or poison that's needed. Only times you really get to work is planting, pipe stuff and harvesting.

Anyways it's just so blatant I don't know why people are not migrating back to villages en masse. Only reason I can think is they want to work behind a desk, or their villages are not fertile.
Beacause Lack of good job good school good hospital good shopping centres.For childrens and elders is bad

Especially our traffic system is not good enough we need much more high-speed railway.
 

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Bro I moved to a small village partly because of this. I'm now building my house. It'll be done by 3-4 months. And then I will tend to my land. Maybe marry and raise brave sons and virtuous daughters.

If you have the means to get about 10 dönüm of arable land with water and electricity access, I strongly suggest moving to a village. If you have a brain and semi-functioning body you can not only survive but thrive. Bonus points if you have (non-*sshole) family in the place you move in because they help a lot.

Farmers always complain, but one thing I realized since I moved here is farming is an extremely profitable business if you use your head. If you just follow trends you lose, sorta like the stock market. But good thing is if you are willing to do dirty work, it pays a lot because everybody is aged in villages nowadays. If you can handle the itch, farming okra in 3 dönüm land can not only provide you with a quality life, it can be a springboard to greater ventures. It pays really well.

And good thing is you don't even work 5 days a week. You just take a walk in the field everyday, look for signs of worms, larvae, disease or other problems. If you see them you spray the fertilizer or poison that's needed. Only times you really get to work is planting, pipe stuff and harvesting.

Anyways it's just so blatant I don't know why people are not migrating back to villages en masse. Only reason I can think is they want to work behind a desk, or their villages are not fertile.
When the winter months come, it becomes very burdensome to stay in the village. Heating is a problem. You have to install the central heating system accordingly. Getting a tube is a problem. You have to make your own bread. And when it snows, village roads are closed first. You are cut off from the world. This is not a life for everyone.
 

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When the winter months come, it becomes very burdensome to stay in the village. Heating is a problem. You have to install the central heating system accordingly. Getting a tube is a problem. You have to make your own bread. And when it snows, village roads are closed first. You are cut off from the world. This is not a life for everyone.
Bro don't go to Siberia I moved to a village in Mersin lol
 

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The earthquake scientists have been very vocal the last few weeks, warning great Istanbul earthquake could happen any time now. Just when I was brooding over it, a 3.9 magnitude earthquake happened in Marmara sea. 250 years of accumulated pressure could break the locked fault line very soon and we could face the greatest calamity ever since the WW1.

Am I the only one who thinks that significant percentage of our GDP should be allocated to speed up the earthquake readiness as much as possible? Doesn't matter if it will impede our economic growth or anything. Istanbul earthquake is the biggest threat we have to face and we are far far from being ready.
The problem is things you dont see doesnt impress Turkish people so politicians would rather spend the money to fix sidewalks than to improve things in the basement of buildings.
Istanbul earthquake will be a disaster never seen before yet we lack any kind of early warning nor do we have a proper emergency plan, last years earthquake showed how helpless we are, Istanbul will be a magnitude worse.

Not to mentions a destroyed Istanbul will be a turning point for Turkey as its his beating heart, imagine someone pushes a dagger into your heart, a big earthquake would be no different for Turkey.
But yeah these are uncomfortable topics that people would rather avoid so lets just go back to worshipping politicians instead, im sure they will hand out alms from their ivory towers once it happens.
 

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Mersin'de yayla da yaşanır ama yazın şehir merkezinde kavrulursun. Güneşe ateş eden Adanalıları anlarsın
Çok enteresan zihni sinir projelerim var Mut ovasında püfür püfür olacak bahçem + sineksiz

Sh*t with enough ambition and you'll get through the stone!
 

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Bro I moved to a small village partly because of this. I'm now building my house. It'll be done by 3-4 months. And then I will tend to my land. Maybe marry and raise brave sons and virtuous daughters.

If you have the means to get about 10 dönüm of arable land with water and electricity access, I strongly suggest moving to a village. If you have a brain and semi-functioning body you can not only survive but thrive. Bonus points if you have (non-*sshole) family in the place you move in because they help a lot.

Farmers always complain, but one thing I realized since I moved here is farming is an extremely profitable business if you use your head. If you just follow trends you lose, sorta like the stock market. But good thing is if you are willing to do dirty work, it pays a lot because everybody is aged in villages nowadays. If you can handle the itch, farming okra in 3 dönüm land can not only provide you with a quality life, it can be a springboard to greater ventures. It pays really well.

And good thing is you don't even work 5 days a week. You just take a walk in the field everyday, look for signs of worms, larvae, disease or other problems. If you see them you spray the fertilizer or poison that's needed. Only times you really get to work is planting, pipe stuff and harvesting.

Anyways it's just so blatant I don't know why people are not migrating back to villages en masse. Only reason I can think is they want to work behind a desk, or their villages are not fertile.

Chad alert.

Its same case in lot of places, lot of ppl are spoiled and lazy and then whine about not earning enough in the city as all the prices and pressures are too darn high.

I point them to all kind of work thats "dirty" and "blue collar" (jobs that have lot of vacancies all the time)...like one summer job in uni break I did long time ago was in farming. Lot of hard work but it paid quite well because fewer and fewer people wanted to do that kind of work. I developed good back strength by baling hay lol, gym cant do it like that because this is all functional stuff...theres all kind of benefits.

I'm investing into long term country life just like you over time too...and I encourage as many people (middle age like me) to consider it too and get started earlier rather than later (and try too much too quickly then) to have a place, learn how to live off the land and all skills you need to be as self-sufficient as possible. Cities are just going to keep getting worse for me.
 

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Türkiye genelindeki projeleri kastetmiştim, İstanbul'dakileri değil.

Şu aşamada bizim depremden doğacak hasarı dolaylı olarak hafifletecek projelere değil, doğrudan, henüz deprem olmamışken, yıkılacak binaları depremden önce bizim yıkmamız, sanayiyi İstanbul dışına olabildiğince çabuk ve gerçekçi projelerle taşımak, kentsel dönüşüme warp speed vermek, kentin deprem sonrası telekomünikasyon, ulaşım, geçici barınma, tahliye sorunlarını öngörerek gerekli önlemleri almak gibi çözümlere ihtiyacımız var.

İnsanlar ancak deprem olmadan önce kurtarılabilir. Deprem olduktan sonra kurtarma operasyonları maalesef imkansız.

Cumhurbaşkanı Yardımcısı Cevdet Yılmaz, Türkiye'deki yaklaşık 20 milyon konutun üçte birinin dönüşmesi gerektiğini söyledi.​



Oluşacak maliyeti gözünde canlandırman için paylaştım.
 
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Turkey the Secular the Liberal the Democratic is ranked at 5 in the global slavery index 2023 , worst than Russia and UAE

Imagine being so braindead you actually believe this. This is Wikipedia tier Progressive/Rainbow-Marxist propaganda. It's like how the Freedom Index puts Canada as between #1-#5 freest country in the world - a country that will cut off your bank account if you protest against their tyrannical medical mandates, will refuse life-saving medical treatment if you do or say anything contrary to the state ideology, and where the media and courts are owned and controlled by the Rainbow-Marxist deep state. Most such indexes have been politically corrupted by this scummy ideology.
 
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Chad alert.

Its same case in lot of places, lot of ppl are spoiled and lazy and then whine about not earning enough in the city as all the prices and pressures are too darn high.

I point them to all kind of work thats "dirty" and "blue collar" (jobs that have lot of vacancies all the time)...like one summer job in uni break I did long time ago was in farming. Lot of hard work but it paid quite well because fewer and fewer people wanted to do that kind of work. I developed good back strength by baling hay lol, gym cant do it like that because this is all functional stuff...theres all kind of benefits.

I'm investing into long term country life just like you over time too...and I encourage as many people (middle age like me) to consider it too and get started earlier rather than later (and try too much too quickly then) to have a place, learn how to live off the land and all skills you need to be as self-sufficient as possible. Cities are just going to keep getting worse for me.
Everybody wants to study to have a "good job" later and the result is over supply of such people. I as service technician earn more than average office worker, have extra benefits like lunch money, travel expenses, dirt bonus no gasoline expense etc. The work times are not like in office, if my job is done my work day is done and nobody cares, i get to see the most beautyful places all over the country.
I couldnt be happier about having a technical blue collar job, ofcourse i need to do office jobs at home like rapporting but after an hour sitting on lap top i tell myself fuck this shit cant do that 8 hours every day behind a desk, i am not made for caged life. :ROFLMAO:

And the best part is, there is abundace of open vacancies in my job, i stopped checking linked in due to the amount of offers, if i think the company sucks i can change my job tomorrow if i want, and that for a higher pay too. So thanks to all the teachers of my generation for showing blue collar job as less valuable and making the propaganda that everybody must study or work in office. 😁
 

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Chad alert.

Its same case in lot of places, lot of ppl are spoiled and lazy and then whine about not earning enough in the city as all the prices and pressures are too darn high.

I point them to all kind of work thats "dirty" and "blue collar" (jobs that have lot of vacancies all the time)...like one summer job in uni break I did long time ago was in farming. Lot of hard work but it paid quite well because fewer and fewer people wanted to do that kind of work. I developed good back strength by baling hay lol, gym cant do it like that because this is all functional stuff...theres all kind of benefits.

I'm investing into long term country life just like you over time too...and I encourage as many people (middle age like me) to consider it too and get started earlier rather than later (and try too much too quickly then) to have a place, learn how to live off the land and all skills you need to be as self-sufficient as possible. Cities are just going to keep getting worse for me.
The main problem of countryside is the lack of good schools and hospitals.

The life is good for middle-aged strong couple but when you become older you need to go to hospitol often.And I think the best universities should move to countryside not to stay in the biggest cities.Oxford and Cambridge are not in London.
 

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This man is going to make Turkiye Great Again
 

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Imagine being so braindead you actually believe this. This is Wikipedia tier Progressive/Rainbow-Marxist propaganda. It's like how the Freedom Index puts Canada as between #1-#5 freest country in the world - a country that will cut off your bank account if you protest against their tyrannical medical mandates, will refuse life-saving medical treatment if you do or say anything contrary to the state ideology, and where the media and courts are owned and controlled by the Rainbow-Marxist deep state. Most such indexes have been politically corrupted by this scummy ideology.

In Canada you can now get fined for using the wrong pronouns.
 

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