TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[Ryder]

None of that matters; tribalism still finds a way look at Brexit.


The only way to end the Kurdish problem and other ethnic problems is for Turkey to disrupt the ethnic dominance of Kurds in the East and mix their population up with the rest of Turkey's ethnic groups. As long as there is any territory that is majority Kurdish, the separatist movement will not end, as the existence of an ethnic heartland not only stops them from assimilating into a wider Turkish nation but also makes it possible to achieve a separatist state.

This is also something Turkey needs to keep in mind when dealing with the Syrian refugees and other ethnic groups. Turkey needs these refugees and migrants to make up for its low birth rates, but the problem is that Turkey doesn't even try to assimilate these groups instead, it lets them group up in the southeast instead of spreading them out. The West does a better job assimilating these groups than Turkey despite Turkey having the power to do so. The Turkish Republic's incompetence is especially surprising since most of these individuals come from lands that Turks have dominated for centuries, and Turkish soft power is especially strong in does areas.

The Turkish Government needs to look at the early Ottoman Sultans for inspiration as they understood the importance of engineering the demographics of a nation in a way that helped the state, not just leaving the problem alone while being stuck in an endless game of whack-a-mole.

I got a better idea.

Turkiye belongs to the Turks. Not the Kurds, not the Greeks, not the Armenians.

The better these ethnic groups accept it the better if they want to continue their hostility towards Turks well the military is the way to go.

Funny how the Kurds cry to the world because Turkiye refuses to surrender half of its land to them.

They can cry about racism all they want. They hate Turkiye while at the same time they dont mind keeping Turkish passports.

I dont see them migrating to Syria, Iraq or Iran but some reason they always stay at Turkiye.

In Australia the Kurdish diaspora are racist as hell. Most of them carry Turkish passports also support HDP.

 

[I_Love_F16]

None of that matters; tribalism still finds a way look at Brexit.


The only way to end the Kurdish problem and other ethnic problems is for Turkey to disrupt the ethnic dominance of Kurds in the East and mix their population up with the rest of Turkey's ethnic groups. As long as there is any territory that is majority Kurdish, the separatist movement will not end, as the existence of an ethnic heartland not only stops them from assimilating into a wider Turkish nation but also makes it possible to achieve a separatist state.

This is also something Turkey needs to keep in mind when dealing with the Syrian refugees and other ethnic groups. Turkey needs these refugees and migrants to make up for its low birth rates, but the problem is that Turkey doesn't even try to assimilate these groups instead, it lets them group up in the southeast instead of spreading them out. The West does a better job assimilating these groups than Turkey despite Turkey having the power to do so. The Turkish Republic's incompetence is especially surprising since most of these individuals come from lands that Turks have dominated for centuries, and Turkish soft power is especially strong in does areas.

The Turkish Government needs to look at the early Ottoman Sultans for inspiration as they understood the importance of engineering the demographics of a nation in a way that helped the state, not just leaving the problem alone while being stuck in an endless game of whack-a-mole.

What you need to understand is that those ‘’refugees’’ were brought in to disrupt the country from the inside. The governement has no wish to assimilate them, precisely because it’s part of the plan. There is no country in this world crazy enough to brought in a dozen millions of refugees in a span of 10 years. Not even the richest and most pro refugee ones.

Hell, they’re not even refugees, half of them are actually economic migrants. The problem is that all these people are a liability for the Turkish Republic. In the coming years, those people will create even more disruption in an already disrupted and disunited Turkiye.

 

[Manomed The Second]

I got a better idea.

Turkiye belongs to the Turks. Not the Kurds, not the Greeks, not the Armenians.

The better these ethnic groups accept it the better if they want to continue their hostility towards Turks well the military is the way to go.

Funny how the Kurds cry to the world because Turkiye refuses to surrender half of its land to them.

They can cry about racism all they want. They hate Turkiye while at the same time they dont mind keeping Turkish passports.

I dont see them migrating to Syria, Iraq or Iran but some reason they always stay at Turkiye.

In Australia the Kurdish diaspora are racist as hell. Most of them carry Turkish passports also support HDP.

Ryder said everything I wanted to say about this matter, We turks are stupid enough to call everyone our brother.

 

[B_A]

Ryder said everything I wanted to say about this matter, We turks are stupid enough to call everyone our brother.

Especally Syrians

You can see another post i wrote,they came and treat our girls as harem,treat our men as slave

 

[Manomed The Second]

Especally Syrians

You can see another post i wrote,they came and treat our girls as harem,treat our men as slave

They try to rape woman in daily basis too even small children aged 12, we must get rid of them with or without force.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Turks should do it like the Chinese. Put every mofo who acts against the state into a camp. At one point that human rights bla bla has no weight anymore.

 

[Heartbang]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644617066366873601

Sinan Ogan talking about chip production while Erdogan and KK beat around the bush like fools.

Sinan Ogan deserves a point from me just for this.

First of all, Taiwan doesn't have the chip manufacturing tech, the Americans and the Dutch have. If TSMC decides to open a chip fab in Turkiye, the machines that make the chips will come from the Netherlands, and the software to design those chips and run the machinery come from the US.

And second, and this is the most crucial part: Taiwan's ENTIRE BLOODY EXSITENCE RESTS UPON THE FABS HE WANTS THEM TO OPEN IN TURKIYE!
The only singular reason China hasn't took over that island already and enacted a "cultural revolution 2: electric boogaloo" is the US's poorly hidden commitment to keep the island from any harm and make sure the fabs that run the Western semiconductor ecosystem keeps on chugging.

And here he comes with his two feet and his "GigA bRaiN" to tell those lads to open a fab on your country, which btw is a nation that doesnt even recognize Taiwan's existence as a nation, because reasons.

I'm truly at a loss for words here lads. Kept on writing and deleting this last sentence for a while. I just personally hope, for the sake of our martyrs, these morons would NEVER EVER get the chance of ruling over this magnificent nation of ours.

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643722523421425665

Erdogan fired Mehmet Simsek since Erdogans economy policies have failed he now brings back the legendary Mehmet Simsek to bail him out.

Erdogan needs to realise his limits stop controlling everything.

His not a Abdulhamid II who is running a decay state is trying to run everything just to keep the Empire intact. Times have changed get with it. This not an attack on past leaders but Erdogans needs to stop modelling himself as past leaders.

Always know your limits even if you are the leader.

Erdogan is trying to get the economy up in running again because he know himself good will not make him win. His voter base is fracturing. Even if he wins he wont have that big ass victory he had for decades.

If he loses to Kilictaroglu despite beating him numerous times could even end being embarassing for him even if KK gets a narrow victory.

 

[what]

Quick reminder: English translations or at least summaries are mandatory in this thread, as in all others in this subforum.

 

[UkroTurk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645792313896218636

Please keep their mouth closed.

What kind of idiots they are?

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645792313896218636

Please keep their mouth closed.

What kind of idiots they are?

Translation pls?

 

[Heartbang]

What kind of idiots they are?

Desperate ones.

 

[UkroTurk]

Translation pls?

"If you dropped two bombs on TCG Anadolu, the warship would be destroyed"
They were underestimating the ship Because of Erdoğan .
Kinda as if Erdoğan's created the construction. TCG Anadolu was the will of Turkish Navy. They seem to have forgotten that TCG Anadolu was constructed by Turkish Army, engineers and scientists.
Shame.
Because of those pathetics i hesitate to vote CHP .

 

[Sanchez]

We now need 2 more carriers and Greeks need 4 so that we can recreate the Battle of Midway. It really is baffling to see how much some people don't have any idea but are allowed to make their voices heard. With pro opposition, it's "everything we do is horrible and a lie". With pro gov "everything we do is awesome and if not for those pesky evil terrorists and traitors we would be number one".

We have some house cleaning to do.

 

[Fairon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645792313896218636

Please keep their mouth closed.

What kind of idiots they are?

Ayşenur Aslan

She is the last "CHP'li teyze". No one takes her seriously. (At least I hope)

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646124168126029825

2023 Presidential Election
Candidate Preferences

"Which candidate would you vote for if there was an election this Sunday?"

•Kılıçdaroğlu 48.9%
•Erdogan 41.5%
•Thin 7.2%
•Ogan 2.4%

(07-11 April 2023)

 

[Ryder]

"If you dropped two bombs on TCG Anadolu, the warship would be destroyed"
They were underestimating the ship Because of Erdoğan .
Kinda as if Erdoğan's created the construction. TCG Anadolu was the will of Turkish Navy. They seem to have forgotten that TCG Anadolu was constructed by Turkish Army, engineers and scientists.
Shame.
Because of those pathetics i hesitate to vote CHP .

Max Cehape Zekasi.

Halk Tv and Ahaber make fox news look sensible.

 

[guest12]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645792313896218636

Please keep their mouth closed.

What kind of idiots they are?

They are the Y-CHP mentality you guys love and vote for soon.

Halk TV's tweet posted yesterday and later deleted.

Second peace process also announced yesterday at Halk TV by Sezgin Tanrıkulu.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/12iwch6

 

[Khagan1923]

My prediction. And no I don't have time to go into senseless discussion with aktrolls or oktrolls here. This is pure gut feeling and what I have seen and picked up over the last few weeks.

Parilament: (Just gonna give ruff numbers might not add up to a clean 100%)

AKP ~35% (Here I'm not sure either but it is most likely gonna be around 30-35 in the end)
CHP ~25% (This might see a trend downwards due to the disastrous MP list made by KK)
IP ~13% (Same applies here too, IP has some disgusting people on its list which will most likely affect its votes negatively)
MP ~8%
hdp ~8%
MHP ~6%
ZP ~3% (I hope I'm wrong with ZP and they can capitalise on CHP and IP mistakes and get over the needed votes to make it into Parliament)
TIP ~2%
deva ~1%
Rest ~1%

For me the most important thing is that both ZP and MP make it into parliament. ZP and MP will if they make it over the threshold will be THE political parties of the next election. AKP without Erdogan will be guideless and will fall into turmoil and civil war, CHP is completly lost and I have zero trust in KK not to install one of his dersimci puppets (I fear he will handpick pkk lover Canan even though some believe the position has been promised to Ekrem Imamoglu) as the next chairman of the party and continue riding it down the path he has taken it for the last 10 years. IP loves to shoot its own foot whenever they actually see some upward trend. MHP might survive if Sinan Ogan takes over as chairman and rights the party back to its roots. The other are not worth talking about hdp's future is grim with more and more leftist parties cropping up, deva/gelecek/saadet/yr/hüdpar we don't need to talk about with their combines 3% votes.


Also I don't foresee the next administration lasting until 2028, so we will most likely see early elections in 25-26.

Presidency: (Same thing applies here, ruff numbers)

1. Round

Erdogan ~42%
KK ~43%
Ince ~10%
Ogan ~5%

2.Round

Erdogan ~45%
KK ~55%

 

[Zafer]

KK ~55%

And Mrs Akşener was thinking KK is unlikely to win, shame on her. The truth is although RTE won all the elections he entered and KK lost all the elections he entered there is something different this time and KK wins against RTE by a 10% points margin. Lets just wait and see then.