TR Air Defence Programs

[AWP]

Anyone know how many Hisar A and O that have been ordered by TSK?

the real numbers no one here really knows it . but few weeks ago some experienced member made an assumption on the numbers in this thread .

 

[Huelague]

S-400 has ballistic missile defence capabilities and also cover a wide range area with different types of missles. Siper will not be at the level of that system for the time being. We need a decade or so to reach that point. Also Im not going into politics.

But SIPER can be integrated on our net-centric system. S-400 doesnt.

 

[Nutuk]

But SIPER can be integrated on our net-centric system. S-400 doesnt.

Why not?

 

[Huelague]

Why not?

Theoretically it is possible on software side. But not that easy on hardware side. Even we can manage it, it will not has same capability like the western interoperating "plug- and play" system.
But let us theoretical be here. How can we connect S-400 with our AWACS, for example?

 

[Huelague]

@Anmdt , is it possible to connect "GENESIS" or KEMENT with S-400?

 

[Lonewolf]

How can the enemy knowing it when it is a state secret?

Just a few men in your country ,who will check up for the number of procurement for some specific components . Like seeker etc and will know that how many missile are procured . Well it isn't a state secret , all countries announce procurement publically .

 

[Lonewolf]

Theoretically it is possible on software side. But not that easy on hardware side. Even we can manage it, it will not has same capability like the western interoperating "plug- and play" system.
But let us theoretical be here. How can we connect S-400 with our AWACS, for example?

Connecting awacs with s 400 is idiotic tbh .

No use , you just iff system , rest a common ground control unit for situational awareness which wil take data from all subsystem and then you will select the defence components that will be working in synergy

 

[TheInsider]

But SIPER can be integrated on our net-centric system. S-400 doesnt.

Under the project, Aselsan "Hakim" anything can be integrated into the Hakim system.

 

[Turko]

Under the project, Aselsan "Hakim" anything can be integrated into the Hakim system.

No thanks, i would prefer not to have ballistic missile protection rather than Russians infiltrate my national defense network.

 

[Oublious]

No thanks, i would prefer not to have ballistic missile protection rather than Russians infiltrate my national defense network.

How does that works?

 

[Turko]

How does that works?

İf i knew , i would work for KGB. Remember S400 consists of also Radar antenna which emitting signals UpTo 600km. What if the system could pass the data to Russia?

 

[Zafer]

İf i knew , i would work for KGB. Remember S400 consists of also Radar antenna which emitting signals UpTo 600km. What if the system could pass the data to Russia?

That possibility is there and it is a good thing it will ward off F35's from our skies. In the meantime we are developing our own systems and once they are done we can pack away our S400 systems for occasional resort.

 

[Lonewolf]

To pass info to ruskies in real time it need to emit something .

And I don't think radar has such huge memory pack to store data of months

 

[Siper>MMU]

S-400E can be used with Link-16. Many Russian export systems have capability to operate with Nato compatible systems.

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt , is it possible to connect "GENESIS" or KEMENT with S-400?

GENESIS can do that with the 'external commands' gateway of HERIKKS ( or HAKIM)
ADVENT blends better with these systems, but both of them can only get target information and tracking data into the central systems.
It doesn't mean truly connecting the S-400, like guiding missiles into targets using illumination from the ships or data link of the ships by assigning command of the missile to a ship.
This will be introduced with ASA (munition network) and national air defense missiles (Siper and beyond), a missile fired from land will be able to be guided into target by being assigned to ships' command.

 

[Huelague]

How does that works?

If you connect two systems, it is possible that both systems can 'infiltrate' each other by communication port access.

 

[Manomed]

That possibility is there and it is a good thing it will ward off F35's from our skies. In the meantime we are developing our own systems and once they are done we can pack away our S400 systems for occasional resort.

We can't even use the system what the hell are you talking about?

 

[Combat-Master]

Thanks to @Defence Turkey

 

[Tornadoss]

Thanks to @Defence Turkey
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Our missiles are heavier and bigger yet compared to the other missiles have less range and altitude? Why is that?

 

[BordoEnes]

Our missiles are heavier and bigger yet compared to the other missiles have less range and altitude? Why is that?

The only reason is probably because the other missiles had more times to mature and evolve based on passed experiences, whilst we are only recently getting into these types of missiles. In time the weight to range ratio will probably be similar to equivelant systems.