TR Air Defence Programs

[King_West]

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I think they need it for themselves,many Ukranian attacks coming in the future.

They indeed needed for themselves to protect from increasing Ukrainian raids. If Russia offers a good price it will be a win-win. Erdogan can claim a good deal, and appease trump.

 

[Merzifonlu]

I think they need it for themselves,many Ukranian attacks coming in the future.

I doubt they'll want it for themselves. They'll need to convert the export version to its original state. On the other hand, they have a commitment to India, and since they'll be exporting it anyway, they won't need to make any significant changes to the system. If they retrieve the S-400 systems from Türkiye, I think they'll perform a minor overhaul and then sell them to India.

 

[Yasar_TR]

That is a Ukranian defence news site making these allegations. It doesn’t give any indication of the “source” of such news.

Including a similar Turkish site, there are a number of other foreign sites that make the same news too. But none of them give the source of the news.
It looks like someone made the news piece, and everyone followed suit.

Reminds me of “Nasrettin Hoja” the Medieval Ottoman Comedian; who utters a lie at the beginning of the street we was walking on and believes the same lie when he reaches the end of the street and hears it; as it has travelled faster than him.

Can anyone give a credible source that corroborates this news?

 

[Iskander]

That is a Ukranian defence news site making these allegations. It doesn’t give any indication of the “source” of such news.

Including a similar Turkish site, there are a number of other foreign sites that make the same news too. But none of them give the source of the news.
It looks like someone made the news piece, and everyone followed suit.

Reminds me of “Nasrettin Hoja” the Medieval Ottoman Comedian; who utters a lie at the beginning of the street we was walking on and believes the same lie when he reaches the end of the street and hears it; as it has travelled faster than him.

Can anyone give a credible source that corroborates this news?

All Russian websites publishing this information cite the Turkish newspaper Nefes as their source. Nefes cites an unspecified source. This story may be false. But it is interesting. Russia does have serious problems with air defense. The problem is that it has thousands of military installations in its vast territory that need protection from long-range Ukrainian drones. In Crimea, almost all of its air defense systems, including the S-400 and even the “legendary” S-500, seem to be out of action. (All Russian weapons, from Kalashnikovs to T-72s, are legendary ) Even with their vast front line, they have a serious shortage, not to mention the thousands of installations, including strategic ones, that need air defense in the rear. The claim that they want to buy S-400s from Turkey and sell them to India is a myth for the truly naive.

 

[Radko]

All Russian websites publishing this information cite the Turkish newspaper Nefes as their source. Nefes cites an unspecified source. This story may be false. But it is interesting. Russia does have serious problems with air defense. The problem is that it has thousands of military installations in its vast territory that need protection from long-range Ukrainian drones. In Crimea, almost all of its air defense systems, including the S-400 and even the “legendary” S-500, seem to be out of action. (All Russian weapons, from Kalashnikovs to T-72s, are legendary ) Even with their vast front line, they have a serious shortage, not to mention the thousands of installations, including strategic ones, that need air defense in the rear. The claim that they want to buy S-400s from Turkey and sell them to India is a myth for the truly naive.

They all got the source as militaryni

 

[Saithan]

I am not sure Russians will want the S-400 back. I mean that would mean it's capable and can do the job.

In other words what we got may be a really crappy thing and the reason for not wanting it back is because it's crap.

Joking to a side, looking at Denmark we can see how drones are being used to disrupt infrastructures and such. I have mure trust in TSK capabilities, but is our Law enforcement just as well equipped to track and trace drone operators and such ?

With the rappid growth of AI, I think it becomes important to have semi-autonomous systems developed to handle drone threats. Especially because using drones as fire and forget is getting increasingly easier as the days pass by.

Mini mobile Vans with drone warfare systems with a trailer that has 25mm-35mm hardkill option, or potentially a 40mm with shorter range for same effect.

Or develop a Drone hunter platform that can be deployed rapidly in 1-5 minutes.

 

[Strong AI]

A GÖKSUR IIR infrared-seeker missile, fired from the GÖKSUR 100‑N vertical launch system, scored a direct hit on a low‑altitude target flying close to the sea.

Milli hava savunma mimarimiz yeni yeteneklerle gelişiyor. GÖKSUR 100-N Dikey Atım Sisteminden fırlatılan GÖKSUR IIR Kız…

Haluk Görgün - NSosyal

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[Sanchez]

A GÖKSUR IIR infrared-seeker missile, fired from the GÖKSUR 100‑N vertical launch system, scored a direct hit on a low‑altitude target flying close to the sea.

Milli hava savunma mimarimiz yeni yeteneklerle gelişiyor. GÖKSUR 100-N Dikey Atım Sisteminden fırlatılan GÖKSUR IIR Kız…

Haluk Görgün - NSosyal

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Let's get an actual video on it. Wonder what the range was.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975268274997768248

 

[Strong AI]

Let's get an actual video on it. Wonder what the range was.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975268274997768248

Yeah there is a video on that site but i hate it how he doesn't post it also on X for everyone else.

 

[Oublious]

This is different then normal airdefence missiles, it did hit the target from above.

 

[Sanchez]

This is different then normal airdefence missiles, it did hit the target from above.

Not necessarily a good thing, wish we had an idea on range.

 

[boredaf]

Not necessarily a good thing, wish we had an idea on range.

I'd say it is, if your target is a low flying anti-ship missile coming at your ship, which seems to be the aim of this test.

Edit: Let's not forget, while they are testing the missile from the VLS system in this video, it is also going to be used in this configuration as point defence as well, with a range of 15 km.

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/SST_GOKSUR_100_N_ENG.pdf