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The GÖKALP System, notable for its drone-hunting capabilities, is a high-speed interceptor drone developed using low-cost industrial products. It integrates into a detection-identification-tracking chain against FPV and kamikaze drone threats, operating on the principle of kinetic impact destruction.

Ahmet Akyol stated that GÖKALP, developed as an effective solution against "Şahid" type kamikaze UAVs, is equipped with sensitive AESA radar and electro-optical systems, and utilizes two different interceptor drones: short-range and medium-range. Akyol emphasized that the system performs kinetic destruction by detonating the approaching kamikaze UAV in mid-air after radar tracking, and that it can do this automatically. He noted that the system works not only with ASELSAN solutions but also with Skydagger's interceptor systems, and that GÖKALP is targeted to enter the inventory next year.

ASELSAN's game-changing technologies, the MİĞFER Self-Defense FPV Interception System, were showcased for the first time at SAHA as part of the launch event, mounted on a 4x4 armored vehicle. MİĞFER is designed as a defense system for 4x4, 6x6, and tank-type platforms against mini-micro UAV targets. The physical destruction subsystem within the system neutralizes the threat using a hard-kill method.

Ahmet Akyol stated that thanks to its radar and LIDAR infrastructure, the MİĞFER system can automatically detect FPV drones at very short distances and physically destroy them with special ammunition, describing the system as "a solution that can automatically hunt down FPV drones like hunting birds."

 

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They've been working on a revolver type 35mm, similar to KDG. Some of the weapon systems showcased over the years require the smaller footprint of the revolver to exist. Non surprisingly, all those systems also went nowhere, because they have no guns as MKE is yet to show it.

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Ehm. FINALLY.
"A contract for the "Procurement of High-Velocity 35 mm Cannons" was signed between the Defense Industries Presidency and MKE."

 

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Is this the same as they want to use with MKE TOLGA?
Yes. But still, the previously showcased Mantis like 35mm turret wasn't a real thing; it was a mockup copy of the Mantis. I do hope Aselsan renovates all its 35mm gun line now. We need Göker.
 

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EJDERHA/AD 210 seems to be something more capable of handling things on its own not only with a bigger antenna but its own sensors too (That coaxial optic though :D)
 

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Yes. But still, the previously showcased Mantis like 35mm turret wasn't a real thing; it was a mockup copy of the Mantis. I do hope Aselsan renovates all its 35mm gun line now. We need Göker.

There's one thing I want to know why. Skyranger has 1×1000. Gökdeniz has 2×550. Göker is also single barrel. What's the reason behind 1000-1200 rpm numbers? Why not 2×1000?
 

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There's one thing I want to know why. Skyranger has 1×1000. Gökdeniz has 2×550. Göker is also single barrel. What's the reason behind 1000-1200 rpm numbers? Why not 2×1000?
Wouldn't that be because German Metallurgy is better than ours and their barrels can withstand those numbers.
 

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Wouldn't that be because German Metallurgy is better than ours and their barrels can withstand those numbers.

No I mean why doesn't the German use two of the same barrels. Their system has 1000 rpm capacity. Why not make it 2000?
 

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No I mean why doesn't the German use two of the same barrels. Their system has 1000 rpm capacity. Why not make it 2000?
Size and need. 1200 rpm is enough for airdefence when using airburst rounds also it would eat up the munitions to fast and to revolver canons are too large
 

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No I mean why doesn't the German use two of the same barrels. Their system has 1000 rpm capacity. Why not make it 2000?
1000 is more than enough. Ammo count is what matters really. Mantis should have about 250 rounds ready to fire, don't think it's too different for Gökdeniz in total for two guns. For Mantis, a 1.5 sec burst is about 25 rounds. That gives you 10 engagements. Any larger and you need a bigger housing, and a bigger truck to carry it around.
 

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1000 is more than enough. Ammo count is what matters really. Mantis should have about 250 rounds ready to fire, don't think it's too different for Gökdeniz in total for two guns. For Mantis, a 1.5 sec burst is about 25 rounds. That gives you 10 engagements. Any larger and you need a bigger housing, and a bigger truck to carry it around.
And wouldn't it also make it more complex and also have an impact on the accuracy ?

Not to mention the weight.
 

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Ehm. FINALLY.
"A contract for the "Procurement of High-Velocity 35 mm Cannons" was signed between the Defense Industries Presidency and MKE."

No offense but the translation should be different. Velocity is different, isn't it?

Anyway great news. Also I can't understand why current 35mm cannons can't reach 1000rpm since all are revolver cannons.
Maybe they reduced rpm due to fragile endurance of turret?


ADEN 30x113 with 1500rpm also has same revolver mechanism.
 

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Wait what? TurAF wants to use DENİZHAN for Air Defence? Also MKE will use that 35 mm revolver cannon we saw on the Enderus booth.

Systems Newly Added to TOLGA

MKE General Manager İlhami Keleş:

> “The AESA radar is TOLGA’s radar. With this AESA radar, it can be used day and night both for air targets and, through the optical tracking systems mounted on them, to lock onto PİRANA-type kamikaze systems from the command center. Because the optical systems include both night-vision and daytime cameras, targets can be locked onto there.

> The twin 20 mm guns began to be used specifically at the request of the Naval Forces. The guns fire 1,600 rounds per minute.

> We currently have an order volume of 31 units for the 76 mm naval gun. For this, we built a factory in Mamak dedicated solely to producing naval guns.

> For the Air Force, we will manage the 76 mm system through the TOLGA Operations Center using the AESA radar. Therefore, it will also become highly important in air defense.

> Firing tests of the 35 mm gun have also been completed. The gun actively participating in live firing on that line is the weapon on the stand of our subsidiary Enderus. It can fire 1,100 rounds per minute from a single barrel.

> Enfal-17 is a system managed by TOLGA. Enfal-17 is especially a threat to Shahed-type drones, stand-off munitions, attack helicopters, and all similar threats. In other words, it is a countermeasure against every type of aerial threat below 30,000 feet, and it is a very low-cost countermeasure.”




 
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