“Germanygives conditional approval to Turkey's
#Eurofighter jet purchase.
According to leaked information from the German magazine Spiegel, the Federal German Security Council officially approved the export license requested by the UK in March 2023.
This has paved the way for the sale of 40 aircraft worth a total of 4.75 billion Euros.
During the decision-making process, the German government also consulted with Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis, and after the decision, the UK, Turkish, and Greek governments were informed.
Turkey provided assurances during the decision-making process that the aircraft would only be used within the framework of NATO solidarity. [In the Spiegel report, this is interpreted as: Not to be used against any other NATO member].”
So, if this deal goes through with the underlined assurance, TurAF won’t be operating them in West Turkey, Aegean region to be precise?
“If we must find a positive reading, we can read it as follows:
There are no restrictions on the use of aircraft in Cyprus, Syria, Iraq, etc. The issue in Greece, however, is Germany’s recognition of Greece’s “sovereignty zone.” In other words, our flights over international airspace/waters [* of Aegean region] are perceived by them as “against a NATO country.” Otherwise, it’s not the case that these aircraft are completely banned from the Aegean.”
If true, I’m not happy. if Germans “consulted” the Greek Government and our government gave “assurance“ as we all know that only assurance that would satisfy the Greek government is not flying over supposedly their territory.
@Strong AI is right,just lipservice nothing else.
“Germany
According to leaked information from the German magazine Spiegel, the Federal German Security Council officially approved the export license requested by the UK in March 2023.
This has paved the way for the sale of 40 aircraft worth a total of 4.75 billion Euros.
During the decision-making process, the German government also consulted with Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis, and after the decision, the UK, Turkish, and Greek governments were informed.
Turkey provided assurances during the decision-making process that the aircraft would only be used within the framework of NATO solidarity. [In the Spiegel report, this is interpreted as: Not to be used against any other NATO member].”
So, if this deal goes through with the underlined assurance, TurAF won’t be operating them in West Turkey, Aegean region to be precise?
“If we must find a positive reading, we can read it as follows:
There are no restrictions on the use of aircraft in Cyprus, Syria, Iraq, etc. The issue in Greece, however, is Germany’s recognition of Greece’s “sovereignty zone.” In other words, our flights over international airspace/waters [* of Aegean region] are perceived by them as “against a NATO country.” Otherwise, it’s not the case that these aircraft are completely banned from the Aegean.”
If true, I’m not happy. if Germans “consulted” the Greek Government and our government gave “assurance“ as we all know that only assurance that would satisfy the Greek government is not flying over supposedly their territory.
Oh, yes. We definitely need any flying object at this point. No question about it.
You know things have changed right?Oh, yes. We definitely need any flying object at this point. No question about it.
Btw, Thanks for putting it in your own elegant way
So, all in all, it’s nothing more than Germany paying lip services to Greeks to shoosh ‘em. The Germany who can never have enough of hitting Turkey openly by supporting Greece on E. Med, Aegean Sea, Libya - Turkey memorandum (as officialy expressed by them) as violating Greece’s sovereign rights?
Well, if you guys are satisfied that in reality they are not lip servicing us but Greeks, I’m totally for it
I’m totally aware of that.
You know me mate, I'm all about elegance meBtw, Thanks for putting it in your own elegant way
Viscount Boredaf, 1st Duke of Defencehub DukedomYou know me mate, I'm all about elegance me
If we get 50 Kaans by 2030 we also won't need any foreign aircraft. There are things that are possible, and there are things that are nothing more than a birthday wish.
Until domestically engines are produced, we can't consider either the Kaan or the Hürjet projects final. Our relationship with the US is always on a tightrope and prone to breakage at any moment. Therefore, the Anka3 and Kızılelma, which will ensure we won't encounter any engine problems, are our top priorities. If things go well with the US or we produce our own domestic engine, we won't need anyone else for manned fighter jets anyway. There's currently no news on whether we're getting engines from the US for the other Kaan and Hürjet prototypes. Even prototype production may be stalled...
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The second prototype of the TF6000 is nearing production, and the third will be built with afterburner. If all goes well, delivery of the TF6000 could be expected soon, but the TF10000 will take a little longer. Since the Anka3 and Kızılelma currently use Ukrainian engines, we don't have any engine problems.According to this article, the Anka 3 will only enter mass production in 2028, probably because that is when the TF6000 will be finished. I'm guessing that Kizilelma will enter production around the same time.
IDEF 2025 - Turkish Aerospace Industries gets new contracts and advances development programmes - EDR Magazine
The Hürjet training aircraft, the T625 Gökbey, and the T925 helicopters dominated the Turkish Aerospace Industries stand at IDEF 2025.
You're skipping ahead far too fast mate. TF6K isn't anywhere near delivery, it hasn't even finished its ground tests and then it has to go through another set of tests while flying. Those tests take time, as in years. Every single time people from TEI talk about this they emphasized this as well.
Yeah, he has been saying that for the last 2 years.
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