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SSB could put the locality rate as a requirement, then let the companies decide whether to make an offer or not. When BMC got the contract there was no national engine and powerpack around, they even partnered with Rheinmetall for the production. I am not sure how exactly BMC wasting money compared to Otokar. They got the Tank Palet Fabrikası, they got land free of charge to build a factory.You know , naming you're self the insider doesnt mean you are right all thr time and that you have the accessibility to every project .
When the president erdogan says that the tank will be produced by bmc then thats it .
All the time we see you and other praising otokar company while otokar it self doesnt care about ssb or anyone else , because if it cars about the turkish army they eill fulfill their requirments , but all what they do is bringing foreign and building stuff .
Now you will act like also bmc doing the same by purchasing the design from israel like vuran and kirpi first gen .
Well bmc listened to the army and they did what they asked for and jirpi two was the answer .
Also we should thank fnss , agreat company which is doing the same building great vehicles with a high rate of dometic parts .
While otokar is focusing on exports market .
Dont get me wrong i am not against otokar all yhe way , in the end they can sit and think , they got everything but they dont want to waste money for the sake of turkey .
But people like you making it worse.
In the end you can talk what ever you want and as much as you can until 2023 .
Until 2023 tank project will be bmc project until the people in charge say something else .
That is Altay T3I think what should be done is to launch a new main battle tank project today. Produce something like 50 Altays while the new project is maturing. Extensively upgrade Leos and Sabras as an interim solution.
The tank should be manned 2 or 3 crews probably 3. Less crew means smaller internal volume which will translate to a smaller and lighter tank. Go for an Autoloader and a compact unmanned turret. Those two changes alone will make the tank much lighter, around 50 tonnes i would say rather than 65. Put a 1200-1250hp powerpack which means an excellent 24-25hp/tonne ratio. A high weight-to-power ratio means extra power that can be allocated for all the gadgets. Integration of a hybrid powerpack should also be taken into account. A UAV dock is a must today and a lithium-Ion battery pack to feed the electronics for the silent mode.
This tank should be fully networked. The higher echelon should see how much ammo, how much fuel, and the exact location of each tank has inside a unit. They should be able to send written orders and send mission drawings in NATO format that are drawn on the digital map. Every unit should be able to see the locations of friends and enemies on the digital map. Missions and movements of friendly units should also be available.
Honestly cant Turkiye just buy Ukrainian Engines and fit into the Altay along with a Ukrainian transmission.
Not ideal for Altay. Maybe Firtina 2.
I can agree with you in present day.Who thought Germany would be so foolish to embargo an ally that was planning to buy 1000 tank powerpacks? The Germans shot themselves in the foot. Not only did they lose their biggest tank customer they had since the end of the cold war, they gained a competitor.
Remember, they can only delay Turkey, not stop it.
How about a stop gap solution?
Whats the point Turkey does not have an unlimited military budget to throw money around.
Is he better than Ethem Sancak?
So we can say Tosyalı will be better for BMC ?
1000 tank powerpacks? We want to buy 1000 tanks at the whole 20 years ago and the said, NEIN!Who thought Germany would be so foolish to embargo an ally that was planning to buy 1000 tank powerpacks? The Germans shot themselves in the foot. Not only did they lose their biggest tank customer they had since the end of the cold war, they gained a competitor.
Remember, they can only delay Turkey, not stop it.
…have been ordered.
2000 120 mm tank ammunition will be ordered.