TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

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Altay's Korean engine is "better"*( reliable) than German because it is heavier and engine has longer connecting Rot.

Being compact and light doesn't make an engine better!

Being compact and light just causes more troubles. I am hundred percent sure MTU has a crazy German complicated cooling system which must overcome overheating problems( another crazy German engineering)

I don't know what do you mean with "best power/torque ratio" but i shared above Korean engine outputs which is more consistent at high RPMs.

Koreans must have tried to solve MTUs disadvantages.

Armies preferred MTU 883 because there weren't any other diesels.
I have not seen any user that has any complaints with MTU engines. User experience tells a lot. You are just throwing baseless claims around. Ask Turkish land forces why they wrote the MTU engine as the first item when they were writing the requirements of Altay. It is light and compact and MORE RELIABLE/robust than its competition.
 

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Sorry for my ignorance such topic

But how can that system even work ? I mean most APS systems are inspired from the Israeli Trophy system . the Turkish system looks new and weird . Any video that explain how the interception work ?
Similar to Iron Fist
 

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Sorry for my ignorance such topic

But how can that system even work ? I mean most APS systems are inspired from the Israeli Trophy system . the Turkish system looks new and weird . Any video that explain how the interception work ?
It has radars on the turret, those launchers have mini-missiles in them. Radar spots and tracks missile intercepts things happen extremely fast.
 

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Then I have a question. It was written in this forum that Korea has started to develop a new short-stroke engine and a new transmission for it. If transmissions can work regardless of long stroke engine or short stroke engine, then why is Korea developing a new transmission? Moreover, it was announced that the defects in the old transmission (SNT EST15K automatic transmission) were fixed.
STX, a well-versed Korean company has developed new 1,000 hp and 1,360 hp diesel engines for K9 and heavy IFV. There are more engine projects in the pipeline.

Posts of @Windchime:
Post in thread 'Artillery programs'
https://defencehub.live/threads/artillery-programs.757/post-235141

Post in thread 'Main Battle Tank programs'
https://defencehub.live/threads/main-battle-tank-programs.270/post-235137

The SNT transmission (K2 next batch hopefully & Altay) was fixed, improved and some major parts changed from German to domestic. But no 9,600 km reliability test made so far.
 
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Can we say the Altay is the heaviest tank out there?
 

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Not really. Abrams SEPv2/3, Leo A7V and even the newer versions of K2 are at the same weight level.
Abrams M1 A2 SEPV3 or Leo 2 A7 are over 70 tons.
I think Altay has more balanced weight around 65 tons.
 

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Abrams M1 A2 SEPV3 or Leo 2 A7 are over 70 tons.
I think Altay has more balanced weight around 65 tons.
M1A2 D/C, Challenger 3, Merkava IV Barak, Leopard 2A7V, Arjun 1A and Altay T1 are the heaviest MBTs in active service or soon to be in service, with slight differences between them. All of them have over 70 short tons combat weight.
 

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Abrams M1 A2 SEPV3 or Leo 2 A7 are over 70 tons.
I think Altay has more balanced weight around 65 tons.
I think you‘re mixing up metric tons and short tons data of both tanks.

Leo 2A7V:
66.5 metric tons (73.3 short tons)
Leo 2A7+:
67.5 metric tons (74.4 short tons)

Abrams M1A2 SEP v3:
66.8 metric tons (73.6 short tons)

K2NO (with Trophy MV/VPS „light“):
62.5 metric tons (68.9 short tons)

Altay T1 baseline version:
65 metric tons (71.7 short tons)
The presented Altay models look way heavier now …

For Trophy APS standard MBT version you have to add around 1 metric ton.
 
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I think you‘re mixing up metric tons and short tons data of both tanks.

Leo 2A7V:
66.5 metric tons (73.3 short tons)
Leo 2A7+:
67.5 metric tons (74.4 short tons)

Abrams M1A2 SEP v3:
66.8 metric tons (73.6 short tons)

K2NO (with Trophy MV/VPS „light“):
62.5 metric tons (68.9 short tons)

Altay T1 baseline Version:
65 metric tons (71.7 short tons)
The presented Alaty models look way heavier now …
You are probably right, I thought Abrams M1 A2 SEP v3 was 73 metric tons.
 

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