TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[TheInsider]

At this point, a new tank with a hybrid propulsion system, a 3-man crew, an autoloader, and an unmanned turret should be designed from scratch with an aim to start serial production in 2031. There is no need to produce Altay more than 250 units. We should upgrade every upgradable tank in our inventory, including M60s to improve quality and keep quantity at a good level. BMC can be funded with 250 Altay and tank upgrade jobs.

 

[TR_123456]

In terms of potential delays, that was the topic.

No it was not.
There was no potential delay,it was 15 years of incompetence.

As I said, I'm talking about the new Altay. Not the one which was supposed to enter mass production in 2016. That one has a lot lot to criticize about.

The new Altay is the old Altay with upgrades which can be done years after delivery.
There is no use and no way to downplay this.its a fuckup by the government and BMC.



So,trying to make an illogical problem logical is not the way to go.

 

[Turkic]

No it was not.
There was no potential delay,it was 15 years of incompetence.

The new Altay is the old Altay with upgrades which can be done years after delivery.
There is no use and no way to downplay this.its a fuckup by the government and BMC.



So,trying to make an illogical problem logical is not the way to go.

Why are you trying to make my point look different than it is? I already said it was my personal opinion to see the upgraded Altay as another project. And I clearly stated that the overall Altay project is a mess. Ofc it's a fuckup. Who says else?

I won't answer you if you bring the old Altay to me again.

 

[TR_123456]

Why are you trying to make my point look different than it is? I already said it was my personal opinion to see the upgraded Altay as another project. And I clearly stated that the overall Altay project is a mess. Ofc it's a fuckup. Who says else?

I won't answer you if you bring the old Altay to me again.

Nobody is expecting an answer from you so be cool.

 

[boredaf]

Why are you trying to make my point look different than it is? I already said it was my personal opinion to see the upgraded Altay as another project. And I clearly stated that the overall Altay project is a mess. Ofc it's a fuckup. Who says else?

I won't answer you if you bring the old Altay to me again.

Because you're splitting hairs unnecessarily to deflect blame. There is no old or new Altay, there is a single Altay project that has been mishandled and turned into an embarrassment that led to deaths of our soldiers. One project, one tank and one fuck up.

 

[Zafer]

Türkiye is making the state of the art Altay tank from zero prior experience and zero industrial base now with 100% local input. This is brilliant.

 

[boredaf]

Türkiye is making the state of the art Altay tank from zero prior experience and zero industrial base now with 100% local input. This is brilliant.

We would've done that far sooner if the government hadn't fucked around with the tender to play favourites and give the project to an inexperienced and utterly incompetent company. This is fucking negligence.

 

[Clausewitz]

Türkiye is making the state of the art Altay tank from zero prior experience and zero industrial base now with 100% local input. This is brilliantI.

I remember getting excited for the new Turkish tank back when i was a kid, and even if its the best one there is -i doubt it- i really think that the best tank is the tank that is available. Hopefully there are no more delays since our tank fleet is old enough to have grandchildren .

 

[Numberone]

So whats the real latest status? 18+ months again or what? Sorry but the only thing we are seeing are prototypes and no serial production.. Sad

 

[Zafer]

I remember getting excited for the new Turkish tank back when i was a kid, and even if its the best one there is -i doubt it- i really think that the best tank is the tank that is available. Hopefully there are no more delays since our tank fleet is old enough to have grandchildren .

You want to have the latest and greatest, once you have all the components already available for a tank you get to choose how to configure a tank to your heart's content. Do we want to have a hybrid tank or a fully combustion model or do we want a bigger bore gun with it, it is all in our hands now and you get to choose the number to be made and color as well or to what countries to export it to, unbelievable but true.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963887237273170398

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963887237273170398

I don't understand why the delivery numbers are so meagre in the first few years?

 

[Sanchez]

4 Altay hulls on the production line.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963900739274584476

 

[Pokemonte13]

I don't understand why the delivery numbers are so meagre in the first few years?

its a learning curve. Its the first time making a tank in a serial production way. Imagine you're building a lego set over and over again first you start slow but then increase with every build its the same here plus the factory isin't finished jet once it is after like 1-2 years it will reach its maximum production capacity

 

[Pokemonte13]

4 Altay hulls on the production line.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963900739274584476

3 for delivery one for domestic powerpack testing?
Also is it brand new footage or older one if its brand new at least two months for delivery

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963901843009950095

I see some 12 cylinder engines

 

[mTT]

ALTAY Tankı'nın seri üretimini ilk kez Anadolu Ajansı görüntüledi

Çeliğin girip ALTAY Tankı'na dönüştüğü BMC'nin Ankara'daki üretim üssü ve seri üretim çalışmaları ilk kez Anadolu Ajansı (AA) tarafından görüntülendi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Mass production of Turkish main battle tank Altay begins

Automaker BMC starts producing Altay tank with domestic ‘BATU’ power group at its Ankara plant established last year - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Pokemonte13]

At least 5 hulls in various stages

 

[Fairon]

its a learning curve. Its the first time making a tank in a serial production way. Imagine you're building a lego set over and over again first you start slow but then increase with every build its the same here plus the factory isin't finished jet once it is after like 1-2 years it will reach its maximum production capacity

Also you need to arrange raw materials flow, subsystems, barrels, optics etc to keep up with the hull production as well. Setting that up also takes time.

4 Altay hulls on the production line.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963900739274584476

Hopefully this and saving Altay delivery announcement for the 29OCT reception is the real reason for the delay.

 

[mTT]

At least 5 hulls in various stages

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963911569898680355

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