TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Cypro]

The actual anecdote Temel Kotil has shared is very interesting:

“Gokbey helicopter‘s transmission needed to be produced. We had to go back and forth many times to Germany to get this produced. In the end when we realised that they were not making the transmission, we manufactured it indigenously, the Germans then sent us the transmission they produced.”
This is analogous to many other instances whereby certain defence parts or machinery is not supplied to Türkiye to slow down progress and/or hamper our defence industry’s development.
A similar case was for JDAMs. We needed a large quantity of these in our inventory following initial trial quantities. At 90thousand dollars a piece they are not cheap either. US wouldn’t deliver them. So we made HGK at a price of 27thousand dollars. After our test they offered to supply any quantity we want at 25thousand dollars per kit. But that train had gone passed. Same happened with Oto Melara 72/62mm gun. They kept delaying delivery. Now that we are manufacturing our own, they are offering it at a drastically reduced price. But too late!
Yesterday General Karakus was talking about Angela Merkel, whereby she was telling Europeans that all these delaying and non supplying tactics were actually backfiring. What ever the West was embargoing, we were manufacturing it ourselves. And she was telling them that it was Europe’s and West’s fault that Turkey has built such a good defence Industry.

Basically the reason behind each delayed project or delays in every project. It is better to own it 100% and late rather than being depended. But if it is easily available outside no need to divide valuable R&D resource as well. Like Rotax 912

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581980500826423298

Seems out incompetent politician or defense industry tried to get the germans to do something like the hull for Gokbey. Thank god they dragged their feet and we had to make it ourselves.

the filth who tried jeapordize our own domestic industry through foreign acquisition is and will always be a threat.

As I keep repeating here to people which keep write Naive and Dream like ideas that West/Psudo allies will provide to Turkiye any part of military platform if Military officials requested. Last 10 years this above one of many FACT keep SHOW reality.

Turkiye is embargoed by WEST and even more they Keep analyzing HOW to do More damage indirectly to Any Turk projects.

But what to say to those people which forgetting all those evil behaviors from psudo allies

 

[Ecderha]

The actual anecdote Temel Kotil has shared is very interesting:

“Gokbey helicopter‘s transmission needed to be produced. We had to go back and forth many times to Germany to get this produced. In the end when we realised that they were not making the transmission, we manufactured it indigenously, the Germans then sent us the transmission they produced.”
This is analogous to many other instances whereby certain defence parts or machinery is not supplied to Türkiye to slow down progress and/or hamper our defence industry’s development.
A similar case was for JDAMs. We needed a large quantity of these in our inventory following initial trial quantities. At 90thousand dollars a piece they are not cheap either. US wouldn’t deliver them. So we made HGK at a price of 27thousand dollars. After our test they offered to supply any quantity we want at 25thousand dollars per kit. But that train had gone passed. Same happened with Oto Melara 72/62mm gun. They kept delaying delivery. Now that we are manufacturing our own, they are offering it at a drastically reduced price. But too late!
Yesterday General Karakus was talking about Angela Merkel, whereby she was telling Europeans that all these delaying and non supplying tactics were actually backfiring. What ever the West was embargoing, we were manufacturing it ourselves. And she was telling them that it was Europe’s and West’s fault that Turkey has built such a good defence Industry.

Well said
Because this is planned and still in present it do not Changed.
the leaders of this behaviors are usa, germany ,france, holland,austria(but from this one nobody expect anything), canada, partially Italy

 

[Cabatli_TR]

The cockpit display to be used on Atak Faz3, Atak-2 and Hürjet

 

[dBSPL]

Asena is not a mythological figure, they really exist and they are among us.

 

[Rodeo]

Asena is not a mythological figure, they really exist and they are among us.

Such a cool posture! Behold Officer Özge Karabulut, pilot of ATAK helicopter. Doesn't she give Katee Sackhoff vibes?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Doesn't she give Katee Sackhoff vibes?

Absolutely not! This pilot looks like a woman.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582724136492683269

Teasing R400D for Gökbey...

Might we see R400D used in a FAZ-3 T-129? I think there was talk about upgrading the EO of the T-129.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

30 TrMekatronik 20mm gun will be delivered in 2023. This national gun will be integrated to T129, T629 and T929 (optional along with 30mm)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583773725811683328

 

[Oublious]

 

[MADDOG]

Is this the first gen AVCI or...

 

[Oublious]

I think they have hired HACI production for ther PR video. Was a excellent ATAK video....

 

[MADDOG]

The Big Boy at SAHA EXPO 2022

View attachment 49339

TAI and their old mock-up fetish

 

[Boz]

TAI and their old mock-up fetish

I have convinced myself that they do this because they are putting all their energy on the actual products :')

 

[MADDOG]

I have convinced myself that they do this because they are putting all their energy on the actual products :')

Oh of course

 

[Khagan1923]

So from what I have gather in the open it looks like FAZ-3 for T-129 will be a pretty substanial upgrade in the end.

Upgrade of the EO from Aselflir-300T to Aselflir-400/410 (Confirmed)
Addition of Fire Location Detection System SEDA (Confirmed)
Addition of a Large Area Display (Confirmed)
Avci-2 Helmet (largely confirmed years ago)
MUM-T capability (Confirmed by TAI)
Integration of new missiles (well duh)


Upgrade of EW-Suit (likely?)
MMW-Radar (Unlikely due to weight restrictions on the fuselage?)


@Cabatli_TR Did I miss anything?

 

[Radonsider]

So from what I have gather in the open it looks like FAZ-3 for T-129 will be a pretty substanial upgrade in the end.

Upgrade of the EO from Aselflir-300T to Aselflir-400/410 (Confirmed)
Addition of Fire Location Detection System SEDA (Confirmed)
Addition of a Large Area Display (Confirmed)
Avci-2 Helmet (largely confirmed years ago)
MUM-T capability (Confirmed by TAI)
Integration of new missiles (well duh)


Upgrade of EW-Suit (likely?)
MMW-Radar (Unlikely due to weight restrictions on the fuselage?)


@Cabatli_TR Did I miss anything?

TS-1400 and Turkish 20mm?

 

[Anmdt]

So from what I have gather in the open it looks like FAZ-3 for T-129 will be a pretty substanial upgrade in the end.

Upgrade of the EO from Aselflir-300T to Aselflir-400/410 (Confirmed)
Addition of Fire Location Detection System SEDA (Confirmed)
Addition of a Large Area Display (Confirmed)
Avci-2 Helmet (largely confirmed years ago)
MUM-T capability (Confirmed by TAI)
Integration of new missiles (well duh)


Upgrade of EW-Suit (likely?)
MMW-Radar (Unlikely due to weight restrictions on the fuselage?)


@Cabatli_TR Did I miss anything?

DIRCM

 

[Khagan1923]

TS-1400 and Turkish 20mm?

TS-1400 I don't believe so unless TSK puts in another order for T-129 with the stipulation they come with TS-1400.
To re-engine all the T-129 in inventory would be a waste of money unless TSK expects trouble for spare parts in the future.

Exports variant may be equipped with the TS-1400 to circumvent US approval! That is possible but the T-129 in Turkish inventory will stay with American Engines I expect.

 

[Radonsider]

TS-1400 I don't believe so unless TSK puts in another order for T-129 with the stipulation they come with TS-1400.
To re-engine all the T-129 in inventory would be a waste of money unless TSK expects trouble for spare parts in the future.

Oh, I meant for export