TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Sanchez]

Certification programs EASA or not, take time. Also there may be some technical difficulties, these processes are perfectly normal. What is not normal is the created expectations about T625 entering services as soon as it flies.

T625 first flew in 2018. We didn't create the expectations, they were claimed by the company GM at the time.

This aircraft was to be delivered to gendarme in Q1 2023, which was already a delayed date, because first 3 T625s were to be delivered to gendarme in 2022. Going even further, originally first delivery was to be made in Q4 2021, which was later updated to 1 T625 by H2 2022, which was later revised to first delivery in Q1 2023, then revised to Q4 2023, and we currently do not have any dates.

"The first batch of 3 helicopters is expected to be delivered in 2022. The delivery date for the T625 GÖKBEY was previously planned as October 29, 2021, which was later updated as 'mid-2022'."

T625 GÖKBEY P3 Prototipi LHTEC CTS800-4AT Motorları ile İlk Uçuşunu Yaptı, TS1400 ile İlk Uçuş için Hedef 2023!

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü ve CEO’su Temel KOTİL, sosyal medya hesabı Twitter’dan 17 Mayıs 2022 tarihinde yaptığı bir paylaşım ile ilk uçuşunu yapan 4’üncü GÖKBEY prototipinin icra edilen test uçuşları sırasında çekilmiş kareleri takipçileriyle paylaştı ve ekledi, “Gece gündüz demeden çalışan tüm...

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"Kotil announced that they will deliver the first GÖKBEY helicopter to the Gendarmerie General Command towards the end of 2022."

TUSAŞ 2022 yılında Jandarma'ya ilk Gökbey helikopterini teslim edecek

TUSAŞ, 2022 yılında Jandarma Genel Komutanlığı'na 3 adet GÖKBEY genel maksat helikopteri teslim edecek

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[Sanchez]

J-6001, first production T625 Gökbey for Gendarme is in Güvercinlik joint base, presumably for more trials and/or certification tests. J-6001 was rolled off in 2022 and is still not officially delivered to JnGK.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1826543311777149378

Seems this was from last year when it visited there and not recent. Sad, we are passing another claimed delivery date, which was August 2024 for 2 T625s.

 

[boredaf]

Seems this was from last year when it visited there and not recent. Sad, we are passing another claimed delivery date, which was August 2024 for 2 T625s.

I'm beginning to wish we had a different company focused solely on helicopters and related systems.

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829510193451041026

T-625 delivery?

 

[Sanchez]

Looks great! Still not delivered though. Another wasted promised delivery date, but at least we get an eye candy this time. Delivery should be soon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829510044687179974

 

[Fuzuli NL]

They look magnificent!

 

[zio]

We are told Gökbey will be accepted on Agust but they only make just a show flight.Hürkuş also making show flight for 10 years.Aselsan ceo says about electro-optics of Gökbey,is there anyone who see it.If land forces intented to get Gökbey we can pass civil certification and go for military certification and it would be Quicker although its limits higher than civil ones.There is no intention of Gökbey Land,sea,air forces,they are using AB-212,AB-205,and all of them wants T70.How can we sell Gökbey to military forces of another country?.We will lost many oppurtunities to Leonardo.Is lynx helicopter of UK navy,better than our Gökbey,no they are same class.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829510193451041026

T-625 delivery?

What is that color ? Like civilian helicopter , they should paint it black or hard grey

 

[uçuyorum]

What is that color ? Like civilian helicopter , they should paint it black or hard grey

They have bright colors, seems they want to increase visibility for things like search and rescue

 

[Sanchez]

What is that color ? Like civilian helicopter , they should paint it black or hard grey

Catch up JnGK is a civilian agency now.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Catch up JnGK is a civilian agency now.

Its part of Ministry of interior in peace time , In war time its part of defence , i read about it and i know while police black hawks are black why Jandarma one are like clowns agency for enterteiments ?!
I hope they repaint them

 

[Sanchez]

"According to the information I have received, the acceptance of the first three serial production T625J GÖKBEY Helicopters has not been completed in time for August 30, as the ongoing Military Certification activities of GÖKBEY Helicopters have not yet been completed. However, pilots participating in the tests are very satisfied with GÖKBEY's performance. More than 95% of the Military Certification activities have been completed, and a significant part of the pilot training has been left behind, except for flying under night conditions. The official acceptance of the first 3 T625J GÖKBEY Light Utility Helicopters, which are produced in Military Configuration for the Gendarmerie Aviation Command and defined as Early Entry Helicopters (EDH), is targeted to be completed in the last quarter of 2024 (if there is no setback, the acceptance ceremony is expected to be held on October 29, 2024).

The video clearly shows the helicopters' military-style 10-passenger seat configuration (similar to the Sikorsky S-70/T-70). In addition, the necessary cabling equipment and provisions for the Missile Warning System (MWS) sensors, Counter Measure Launch System (CMDS) lancers, search light and rescue crane to be installed on the helicopters in the future have also been prepared. Some of the T625J GÖKBEY Helicopters with full autopilot capability will also be equipped with the ASELFLIR-R400D FLIR System.

The first 3 T625J Helicopters are powered by the LHTEC CTS800-4AT Turboshaft Engine, while the other 17 T625 Helicopters are planned to be powered by the TEI-TS1400 Turboshaft Engine. However, the qualification schedule for the TEI-TS1400 has not yet been finalized. If qualified, it will be used in 17 helicopters; if not, the LHTEC CTS800-4AT Turboshaft Engines previously supplied by TAI will continue to be used.

According to the information I have received, over 1,000 hours have been flown during the flight test campaign, and over 100 hours have been flown with the J6001 alone. In this context, the J6001 was also subjected to 'snow tests' in Erzurum last March.

Jandarma Havacılık Komutanlığı için üretilen İlk 3 Seri Üretim T625J GÖKBEY Hafif Genel Maksat Helikopteri ile Zafer Uçuşu

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Cumhurbaşkanlığı Savunma Sanayii Başkanı Prof. Dr. Haluk GÖRGÜN, bugün (30 Ağustos 2024) sosyal medya hesaplarından paylaştığı videolu mesaj ile ‘GÖKBEY Zafer Uçuşunun” bugün TUSAŞ Tesislerinde başarıyla gerçekleştiğini duyurdu. Mesaj ile birlikte paylaşılan kısa video da...

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EDH enters back into our lexicon, which was probably the smart way of doing things. Resetting the clock for end of 2024 for delivery.

 

[zio]

"According to the information I have received, the acceptance of the first three serial production T625J GÖKBEY Helicopters has not been completed in time for August 30, as the ongoing Military Certification activities of GÖKBEY Helicopters have not yet been completed. However, pilots participating in the tests are very satisfied with GÖKBEY's performance. More than 95% of the Military Certification activities have been completed, and a significant part of the pilot training has been left behind, except for flying under night conditions. The official acceptance of the first 3 T625J GÖKBEY Light Utility Helicopters, which are produced in Military Configuration for the Gendarmerie Aviation Command and defined as Early Entry Helicopters (EDH), is targeted to be completed in the last quarter of 2024 (if there is no setback, the acceptance ceremony is expected to be held on October 29, 2024).

The video clearly shows the helicopters' military-style 10-passenger seat configuration (similar to the Sikorsky S-70/T-70). In addition, the necessary cabling equipment and provisions for the Missile Warning System (MWS) sensors, Counter Measure Launch System (CMDS) lancers, search light and rescue crane to be installed on the helicopters in the future have also been prepared. Some of the T625J GÖKBEY Helicopters with full autopilot capability will also be equipped with the ASELFLIR-R400D FLIR System.

The first 3 T625J Helicopters are powered by the LHTEC CTS800-4AT Turboshaft Engine, while the other 17 T625 Helicopters are planned to be powered by the TEI-TS1400 Turboshaft Engine. However, the qualification schedule for the TEI-TS1400 has not yet been finalized. If qualified, it will be used in 17 helicopters; if not, the LHTEC CTS800-4AT Turboshaft Engines previously supplied by TAI will continue to be used.

According to the information I have received, over 1,000 hours have been flown during the flight test campaign, and over 100 hours have been flown with the J6001 alone. In this context, the J6001 was also subjected to 'snow tests' in Erzurum last March.

Jandarma Havacılık Komutanlığı için üretilen İlk 3 Seri Üretim T625J GÖKBEY Hafif Genel Maksat Helikopteri ile Zafer Uçuşu

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Cumhurbaşkanlığı Savunma Sanayii Başkanı Prof. Dr. Haluk GÖRGÜN, bugün (30 Ağustos 2024) sosyal medya hesaplarından paylaştığı videolu mesaj ile ‘GÖKBEY Zafer Uçuşunun” bugün TUSAŞ Tesislerinde başarıyla gerçekleştiğini duyurdu. Mesaj ile birlikte paylaşılan kısa video da...

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EDH enters back into our lexicon, which was probably the smart way of doing things. Resetting the clock for end of 2024 for delivery.

Thats the right pathway.At the beginning they will be used for civilian purposes,painted as accordingly, but certification process is more longer than military ones so they changed their mind,now they should change ts colour and add some self protection systems.Planning is bad however finishing is good,mean time many months are lost.

 

[Radonsider]

Its part of Ministry of interior in peace time , In war time its part of defence , i read about it and i know while police black hawks are black why Jandarma one are like clowns agency for enterteiments ?!
I hope they repaint them

Not all helicopters of Gendarmerie are R/B/W scheme. Most of Police Blackhawks are used by PÖH, that's why they are black/grey.

Civilian duty helicopters of Police are painted, as expected, blue and white

 

[Fairon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1840469982041522474

Apparently the new design of T925.

I am wondering if it is possible to make both T925 designs at the same time? Most of the helicopter would be the same and only the cabin will be changed.(like T925 with ramp and T925 without ramp) How difficult would that be?

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1840469982041522474

Apparently the new design of T925.

I am wondering if it is possible to make both T925 designs at the same time? Most of the helicopter would be the same and only the cabin will be changed.(like T925 with ramp and T925 without ramp) How difficult would that be?

Interesting, to say the least...

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You can increase commonality with running gear and cockpit to some degree but it is still added cost on the base design. And more importantly, I think navy still wants a larger helicopter more similar to AW-101, so this doesn't really answer their needs.
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Can't believe this design now changed about 3 times since it was first unveiled.

 

[Fairon]

Interesting, to say the least...

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You can increase commonality with running gear and cockpit to some degree but it is still added cost on the base design. And more importantly, I think navy still wants a larger helicopter more similar to AW-101, so this doesn't really answer their needs.

Both of the designs should be studied by now due to design change, but how much did it progressed I am not sure. Still this would increase the cost and time to develop, it is for sure.

Navy also needs Seahawks (I am not sure how much they like navalized Gokbey idea) and this would address both of their needs as well. ( I wish the solution would be that easy )

 

[Strong AI]

Atak 2 will fly at Teknofest today.

 

[somegoodusername]

Atak 2 will fly at Teknofest today.

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Whaaattt? Why we haven't seen any more image after that ironbird flight of it?

 

[Sanchez]

To add, Atak 2 was shown on yesterday's program as well, but no flight happened.