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If Azerbaycan doesn’t do airstrikes then this won’t amount to much.

They’ve already lost momentum. I am aware of the trenches and what not armenian side has dug, but that is why you have airforces.

I expect at least 2-3 uav in the air at all times on one of those fronts. Bringing terror on the invaders

I doubt Azerbaijan will take all of Karabag I think the push is to take as much as it can then it will stop. Then try years later I think the game plan is slowly swallow the place.

The thing is the Azerbaijanis are inncuring heavy casualties for minor gains which is not good.

For an army on the offense you will lose more than the defenders. Azerbaijani army needs to be built from scratch with Nato standards and the soviet doctrine needs to be discarded.
 

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I doubt Azerbaijan will take all of Karabag I think the push is to take as much as it can then it will stop. Then try years later I think the game plan is slowly swallow the place.

The thing is the Azerbaijanis are inncuring heavy casualties for minor gains which is not good.

For an army on the offense you will lose more than the defenders. Azerbaijani army needs to be built from scratch with Nato standards and the soviet doctrine needs to be discarded.

Well, there aren't any chance of using proxies, so they have to do it themselves. So the question is whether Azerbaycan has a professional army, or are they using conscripts. That won't do in this time and age which is why I say they should have several UAV airborne supporting the push.
 

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Well, there aren't any chance of using proxies, so they have to do it themselves. So the question is whether Azerbaycan has a professional army, or are they using conscripts. That won't do in this time and age which is why I say they should have several UAV airborne supporting the push.

I seen footage of the place its all full of mountains and hills what a nightmare for an attacking army.

Azerbaijanis and the Armenians both use conscripts. Both are neither professional but the Azerbaijanis are better equipped and trained.

Only way real reforms will happen is at the top. I dont want the Azerbaijani army to turned into some ineffective modern army that is seen in a lot of Arab, African and South American armies. I feel like Turkey needs to play a big role in its reforms and rebuilding along with modernisation.

Soviet style doctrines need to be discarded to match todays standards. Russians due to their modernisation are getting rid of lots of soviet style doctrines of fighting. Best example we seen the last time of it was in the chechen wars. Now compare it today the Russians came a long way.

I dont mean Soviet style of warfare is bad. Soviet style basically suited the Russians at the times especially the cold war but warfare changes due to technology this means better education, training, discipline, tactics and stategies to adapt to the changing face of warfare.

All types of warfare doctrines worked for a lot of nations but over time they become obsolete.
 
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I seen footage of the place its all full of mountains and hills what a nightmare for an attacking army.

Azerbaijanis and the Armenians both use conscripts. Both are neither professional but the Azerbaijanis are better equipped and trained.

Only way real reforms will happen is at the top. I dont want the Azerbaijani army to turned into some ineffective modern army that is seen in a lot of Arab, African and South American armies. I feel like Turkey needs to play a big role in its reforms and rebuilding along with modernisation.

Soviet style doctrines need to be discarded to match todays standards. Russians due to their modernisation are getting rid of lots of soviet style doctrines of fighting. Best example we seen the last time of it was in the chechen wars. Now compare it today the Russians came a long way.

I dont mean Soviet style of warfare is bad. Soviet style basically suited the Russians at the times especially the cold war but warfare changes due to technology this means better education, training, discipline, tactics and stategies to adapt to the changing face of warfare.

All types of warfare doctrines worked for a lot of nations but over time they become obsolete.

A lot of members here seem to refrain from using harsh words because of the "bonds" between Turkey and Azerbaïdjan,but they have proved to be a pathetic fighting force,lacking any useful strategy and sending poor conscripts to their death in frontal attacks against an enemy they know is well entrenched and has the heights.

The fact that Azerbaïdjan doesn't publish their casualties speaks about the huge losses they have suffered for negligeable gains on the ground despite a conventional opposing force that is inferior in all aspects. The only thing they did "good" was the use of drones similar to Turkey in Idlib,the rest is pretty much "déjà vu".
 

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Can our engineers find a way to reduce the voices?
They reduce the voices of the armed ones but the civilians are free to utter voices. On the other hand the noise of the plane can be made to be felt less by flying higher. Or by hybridizing the power system of the plane. When they arrive at the engagement theater they can switch to electric motors and possibly smaller propellers.
 

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wish the best for Azerbaijan time to reunite
 

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A lot of members here seem to refrain from using harsh words because of the "bonds" between Turkey and Azerbaïdjan,but they have proved to be a pathetic fighting force,lacking any useful strategy and sending poor conscripts to their death in frontal attacks against an enemy they know is well entrenched and has the heights.

The fact that Azerbaïdjan doesn't publish their casualties speaks about the huge losses they have suffered for negligeable gains on the ground despite a conventional opposing force that is inferior in all aspects. The only thing they did "good" was the use of drones similar to Turkey in Idlib,the rest is pretty much "déjà vu".

Im gonna be harsh seeing Azerbaijanis dying also getting shot while crawling is a disgrace. I hope the higher ups see this footage on how they let these soldiers down.

Aliyev clan has much to answer to be honest. I wish Turkey just takes control of the operations. But wont happen due to international law violations as another country cant take control of another countries armed forces will also make the world believe Turkey is all behind the scenes of this current conflict.

I dont think the Azerbaijanis would be happy in another country controlling their armed forces. Austro-Hungarians were not too happy in their armed forces being controlled by Germany after the Brusilov Offensive crippled their military capabilities due to this weakness the Germans now took control of operations for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Not even the Ottomans or the Bulgarians made the Germans control their whole army despite German weapons, advisors and officers. Same thing happened in Ww2 with Mussolinis Italy as the Italians constant defeats led to Germany taking control.

At the end of the day I have full confidence for my Azerbaijani brothers that they will deliver despite strengths and weaknesses.
 
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Brothers, don't get dishearted by some setbacks on the battlefield. We are doing our best and the enemy is doing their best. We will suffer defeats. This is war.

I guarantee you that their losses are 10x ours. They have the advantage to film ours loses because they have the high ground and no OPSEC. Our artillery, airstrikes and soldiers have killed many times more than we can show.

Allah is with us and the victory will be ours.
 

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Brothers, don't get dishearted by some setbacks on the battlefield. We are doing our best and the enemy is doing their best. We will suffer defeats. This is war.

I guarantee you that their losses are 10x ours. They have the advantage to film ours loses because they have the high ground and no OPSEC. Our artillery, airstrikes and soldiers have killed many times more than we can show.

Allah is with us and the victory will be ours.

You are right my brother.
 

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Can our engineers find a way to reduce the voices?

Dude, don't mind the chatter here. There is no visual to confirm whether it's TB2 or not, highly likely it's not since the high pitch sounds like a rotary engine. But who really knows. Certainly no one here.
 

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Brothers, don't get dishearted by some setbacks on the battlefield. We are doing our best and the enemy is doing their best. We will suffer defeats. This is war.

I guarantee you that their losses are 10x ours. They have the advantage to film ours loses because they have the high ground and no OPSEC. Our artillery, airstrikes and soldiers have killed many times more than we can show.

Allah is with us and the victory will be ours.


Take a look at this UAV strike for example. These buses were full and carried Armenian reinforcements. 40 enemy KIA at least just in this strike. They are suffering way more than us.

The mistakes we make, we'll have to sort out after the war. Incompetence must be held accountable, but right now the importance is to keep up the pressure. They're going to break. Remember Afrin? The first week we made little gains and had some bad ambushes. But once the enemy's breaking point was reached, we steamrolled them.
 

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Dude, don't mind the chatter here. There is no visual to confirm whether it's TB2 or not, highly likely it's not since the high pitch sounds like a rotary engine. But who really knows. Certainly no one here.
Sounds like high RPM rotary engine which means a Harphy (Harop) or whatever, Wankel engine for sure.
 
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