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Yeah, dude - but it would still effective against Kamikaze drones.
True, but only at 350m, though that may be less considering they're shooting upwards.

I was thinking, would it be possible for Azerbaycan to use the suicide drones for surveillance /kamikazi and afterwards send in UAV with MAM-L or such to deal with troops and such ?

The drones could be used on bigger immediate targets or such depeding on CO decision and back it up with another UAV attack on additional targets in the area.

I don't think the artillery would be able to target with same precision.
 

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He also appeared to voice support for Yerevan: "I say to Armenia and to the Armenians, France will play its role." - Macron


 
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At this point in time, the Armenian casualties are 4 to 5 times the Azeri casualties. Both in terms of equipment and manpower.

Why don't you provide proof to the claim that the armenians have suffered 4-5 times the losses compared to the Azeris?
 

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Why don't you provide proof to the claim that the armenians have suffered 4-5 times the losses compared to the Azeris?

I provided you with an explanation for it, however, due to your disrespectful language, the mods deleted both our posts.
 
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I provided you with an explanation for it, however, due to your disrespectful language, the mods deleted both our posts.

An explanation is not enough. The visual evidence goes both ways which leads me to the conclusion that both sides suffered the same amount of losses with a slight chance that the armenians have suffered less because of the defensive nature and terrain of their fight.

I'm expecting better statements and arguments from you. My respect for your military knowledge has gotten another hit.
 

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An explanation is not enough. The visual evidence goes both ways which leads me to the conclusion that both sides suffered the same amount of losses with a slight chance that the armenians have suffered less because of the defensive nature and terrain of their fight.

I'm expecting better statements and arguments from you. My respect for your military knowledge has gotten another hit.
Lets not start a pointless debate here. People tune in for information about the Conflict in this page. If you would like to continue your discussions start a personal chat. @triangle @Agha Sher
 

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Armenian propaganda are trying to make the world believe they are fighting Turkiye.

They are using everything from lies to religion to sway people.

These are the same people who believe they will capture Turkish lands.

To my Azerbaijani brothers keep the pressure up and make them run.
 

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An explanation is not enough. The visual evidence goes both ways which leads me to the conclusion that both sides suffered the same amount of losses with a slight chance that the armenians have suffered less because of the defensive nature and terrain of their fight.

I'm expecting better statements and arguments from you. My respect for your military knowledge has gotten another hit.

Listen, if you sum up the material released by both sides of confirmed/clear hits and kills, Armenia has around 5x more casualties. This is despite Armenia being in a better position to film their strikes (artillery and ATGM), while Azerbaijan doesn't really showcase the impact of their artillery bombardment. Note, Azerbaijan's bombardment is several times more intense than Armenia's.

Take today as an example. Azerbaijan's video material confirms at least 70+ KIA (from UAV strikes only), while Armenia hasn't even shown 1 Azeri KIA. The only video they uploaded was a recirculation of attacks from the first day of conflict.

In summary, the real casualty ratio is probably even worse for Armenia.
 

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Advantage of upperground, and dug in positions are only useful if the enemy comes from the front. As Azerbaycan did a few times, a mistake, and I think the High Command has learned from that mistake. Thus the heavy bombardment.

This is WW1 mixed with WW2, only difference is that Azerbaycan has had Turkish military cooperation since 2009, so I assume that they've learned a few things or two in the high command.

However perfect execution of strategies relies on soldiers being able to achieve them.

But the strategy of softening them up with artillary is good ol tactics. Add to that drones and UAV and you get stationary targets begging to be taken out.

Azerbaycan suffered because they move forward too early and too fast thus they got targetted, but quickly reorganized and are now making Armenia paying dearly.

How much the losses are we can't say, but the videos are the only things we have to go by.
 

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I expected to hear about conquests already.

The enemy is dug in and holding on for their lives, but surely capturing important areas while keeping the enemy locked down is just as important ?

The more you can attack an enemy from all directions the harder it gets to defend.
 
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France is not the international community and has no relevance.

The relevance of France entirely depends on France. He has said he will meet Trump and Putin in the next few days. We will see after that how things go. Meanwhile, Azeris will need to capture enough territory for any successful future negotiations.

 

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@triangle International community getting involved. Hoping for the war to hopefully end in a week or so.

Nothing will change until Armenia abandons the occupied lands. Azerbaijan knows that if it stops the offensive the the whole effort will be for nothing.

A ceasefire will help Armenia save face. But for Azerbaijan, continuing until Armenia surrenders is the logical choice at this point.
 

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