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No wonder these guys got booted out from the army.. Its still to early to talk shit man 😑.. Turkey and nachivan got a economic corridor to Azerbaijan without discussing the status of NK. Got all the 7 regions to resetle Azerbaijani IDPs as well. Would Armenia even discuss the economic corridor if they lost all the territories? Turkey can now normalize relations with Armenia and challenge Russian influence in Armenia also. It is good that we are invested in Azerbaijans cause but if they are happy with the deal we should be happy too.

We don't know how the deal is going to take shape. You're just looking at the final result, but things may change under way.

Problem is Russian soldiers presence in such numbers even though it's 5 years (automatic extention) unless stated otherwise.

So who gets to decide that the Russians aren't needed ? Not Azerbaycan alone I would assume.
 

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Well, its not like he could have done anything to change the fate of NK anyways, Azerbaijan was going to take it back even if it was gonna take a century to do so, they are Turks after all and Turks dont screw around when its about homeland.

I would feel sorry for him if he wasnt the one who was striving for an even more agressive expansionist policy towards Turkey and Azerbaijan.
 

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This agreement is a big victory for Russia.

Also ethnic tension in the future can create a new conflict in the future, at least low intensity.

Turkey needs to counterbalance Russia in the secure zones including Nakchivan-Karabakh road.
 

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So it looks like i was right yesterday, its Russia that won this war and now has a foot in Azeri lands without Azerbaijan being protected by Turkey.
I wouldnt have agreed to the deal to be honest, Russia cant be trusted.
 

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With this agreement, Azerbaijan handed over the areas liberated from Armenia to Russia. So why? Had Azerbaijan ventured to fight a little more, it would have gained full control. In fact, with this agreement, Russia benefited from Armenia's weakness. In this way, he ensured that the Armenian soldiers and equipment were not destroyed, and also ensured that all strategic control was under him.

1. Who is Loser?
Armenia and Pashinyan.. His only gain was he saved his soldiers and remaining equipments. He'll probably lose his government too.

2. Where is Azerbaijan in this situation?
It took back some of it's occupied lands. But it's not exactly a victory. He indirectly handed over some of what he bought from Armenia to Russia. It seems unlikely that Russia will completely surrender those areas to Azerbaijan. I think Russia will stay there for a long time or use it as a military base. They will open a corridor to Nakhchivan, but this corridor will be under Russian control. Maybe later time during the passage of a military convoy from Turkey to Azerbaijan, Russia will be able to say 'STOP'.

3. So, Who is the winner?

I guess there is no one who does not know this. No need to write.


These are what I understand from the agreement. Maybe I'm wrong... It can be criticized.
 

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Armenians will smuggle small arms into secure zones. Azerbaijan should pay very close attention to ethnic demographics. Armenians will attack at the first chance they get.
 

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With this agreement, Azerbaijan handed over the areas liberated from Armenia to Russia. So why? Had Azerbaijan ventured to fight a little more, it would have gained full control. In fact, with this agreement, Russia benefited from Armenia's weakness. In this way, he ensured that the Armenian soldiers and equipment were not destroyed, and also ensured that all strategic control was under him.

1. Who is Loser?
Armenia and Pashinyan.. His only gain was he saved his soldiers and remaining equipments. He'll probably lose his government too.

2. Where is Azerbaijan in this situation?
It took back some of it's occupied lands. But it's not exactly a victory. He indirectly handed over some of what he bought from Armenia to Russia. It seems unlikely that Russia will completely surrender those areas to Azerbaijan. I think Russia will stay there for a long time or use it as a military base. They will open a corridor to Nakhchivan, but this corridor will be under Russian control. Maybe later time during the passage of a military convoy from Turkey to Azerbaijan, Russia will be able to say 'STOP'.

3. So, Who is the winner?

I guess there is no one who does not know this. No need to write.


These are what I understand from the agreement. Maybe I'm wrong... It can be criticized.

I thought russian peacekeepers are only going to be in NK zone and also lachin corridor.

All other parts of occupied-Azerbaijan are to be handed back to full AZ control at successive stages this year right?
 

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I thought russian peacekeepers are only going to be in NK zone and also lachin corridor.

All other parts of occupied-Azerbaijan are to be handed back to full AZ control at successive stages this year right?

Yeah but with this control, Azerbaijan will always feel Russia.
 

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Russians can not be trusted as we all know very well, we have the case of ildip but unavoidably we we have to work/deal with them. Anyway the capture of Hankendi will be vital. it simply means the end of this artifical Armanian entity on Turkish land.

 

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Russians can not be trusted as we all know very well, we have the case of ildip but unavoidably we we have to work/deal with them. Anyway the capture of Hankendi will be vital. it simply means the end of this artifical Armanian entity on Turkish land.

There will be no capture of Hankendi though, its under Russian umbrella now.
 

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Peace agreements,joint patrols,peacekeepers..... pretty much déjà vu isn't it ? ;)

Russians troops on the way to Karabakh


Russia will send at least 22 planes with peacekeepers to Karabakh - Russian National Defense Control Center


 

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I repeat, if there is "compensation" in Syria for this agreement then it is acceptable and maybe more useful for Turkey, we should know it soon.
 

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