TR Air-Force EF Typhoon

[Zafer]

So we can use our own developed wepons on the Typhoon which is great. This can open the doors for our ammo sales to other users too.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Will the Qatari tranche 3a fighters be upgraded to tranche 4 like EF from Oman?

All the Turkish eurofighters should have Captor-E ECRS MK1 radar at least.

ECRS-MK1 is actually built on the basic ECRS-MK0. There isn’t much difference between the two. But the MK1 has more developed T/R modules that allows it to be cooler and improve in performance. Electronic Attack facility is there. It allows for more intricate retrofitted EW and SAR capability.

So it is an economically questionable move to upgrade MK0 radar to MK1. But Mechanical radar is definitely worth an upgrade.

Having said that, short of being an Aesa radar, the mechanical radar is no slouch. It will perform much better than any of our f16 radars.

However it could be a wise move to wait until ECRS-MK2 fitted planes start joining the inventory before we upgrade the radars on the Omani or Qatari planes. If Omani planes are upgraded to MK1 radars as we receive them, then we can wait for 2028 and upgrade the Qatari ones with MK2 radars gradually.
MK2 radar is the real game changer among the 4 EFT radars.

 

[Strong AI]

https://www.eurofighter.com/

 

[Zafer]

F16 no more the top gun, long live the new king

 

[AlperTunga]

So we can use our own developed wepons on the Typhoon which is great. This can open the doors for our ammo sales to other users too.

Is this stated somewhere officially?

 

[Zafer]

Is this stated somewhere officially?

I read in some webnews that we have software accees and we can use our ammo, selinng ammo is my specuation.

Eurofighter yazılımında Türkiye'ye tam hakimiyet! Kaynak kod ve yerli mühimmat ayrıntısı

Ekonomi - Türkiye'nin 10 milyar dolarlık Eurofighter anlaşmasında hava savunmasında çığır açacak maddelerin yer aldığı belirtiliyor. Uçağın yazılım kodları Türkiye'nin elinde olacak. Eurofighter'la yerli füzeler ateşlenebilecek.

ekonomi.haber7.com

 

[AlperTunga]

I hope they make public some details of the deal otherwise this thing somehow leaves a bad taste. If we indeed have access to the code to probably also integrate Murad in the future, we should try to buy some more Tranche 3 second hand.

 

[Sanchez]

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https://www.eurofighter.com/

Weapon load shown here is the same as what was shown earlier this year. I think we can expect the weapons package to be Meteors, ASRAAM, Paveway kits and Brimstone. And the Sniper. Sniper is now 20 year old tech. Hopefully the first order of business is properly integrating HGK and Aselpod. Always good options to have and should be relatively easier.

 

[Oublious]

just ignore the guy with the hair....

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

just ignore the guy with the hair....

The potential other 20 planes would be T5, I guess.

 

[Nutuk]

They have to sell us something, if they don't it forces Turkiye to look to Russia, China etc. From my perspective the NATO side of the story always does the bare minimum for us. Basically just enough to keep us on side but never enough to truly help us with our regional problems.

This is how they are able to play a double game. Support our enemies, support terrorism against us, promote the agenda in their media and internationalise a domestic issue to the detriment of Turkiye.

So basically they do just enough to make sure they get the best outcome concerning Turkiye. As far as were concerned "beggars cannot be choosers". Going towards Russia, China is no good for us, USA, Europe is the lessor devil but its not great either.

So here we are, dumped out the F35 predictably so. Delayed by many years concerning fighter jet procurement and now were buying from the English and you hope if tomorrow you need to act in syria, the east med, cyprus or anywhere really that they don't pull an american on you. And the British are globally known for their games.

There was a recent boris johnson internview where he's talking about how the British sold the shah of iran billions of dollars worth of british tanks. This was when the british were plotting the coup against his government. They took the money, the coup occurred and the tanks never arrived in Iran. He's laughing as he's saying these things.

Nope UK selling the EF2000 has nothing to do with else Turkiye would go for Russian or Chinese (UK would not care)

Starmer told exactly why they are happy to sell the EF2000, this way they keep the production lines running and they are bridging the time till GCAP can be ready. Stopping prodction lines and re-opening is not only costly but you lose also skilled personnel.

So UK selling the EF2000 is purely self interest and has nothing to do with keeping us on their side.

 

[Yasar_TR]

The potential other 20 planes would be T5, I guess.

Bro, please forget about this fixation about tranche numbers.

Yes, as the tranche numbers increase the development level increases too. But higher tranche numbers don’t necessarily denote a better performing or higher technology plane.

UK is producing a Typhoon today that is based on an upgraded version of tranche 3 Typhoon with ECRS-MK2 radar and avionics and electronics that are commensurate with that radar that they called tranche4++ or tranche4.5 even when there was no Tranche 5 around. This Typhoon is more advanced than the German tranche 5 (Which is going to be essentially a tranche 4 with added EW capability using ECRS-MK1 radar)

The Leonardo UK‘s GaN/GaAs hybrid radar with over 1600 T/R modules on the UK Typhoon, is so powerful that it can fry adversary planes’ electronics even before the adversary has seen It . This radar opens up such new avenues that by the time we are in a position to order the optional 20 planes, newer technologies may even be added to the package.

But hopefully we will not need to order any more of these as our KAAN will be in the skies in good numbers by then. Unless of course our partnership goes beyond buyers and sellers, and Hurjet and Kaan and Tempest family become part of the same partnership in one way or another.