hurkus was not the target project. it is a stepping stone for hurjet.Poor Hurkus Still flying in & out of TAI facilities. Only participating in certain airshows. I hope they deliver it ASAP.
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hurkus was not the target project. it is a stepping stone for hurjet.Poor Hurkus Still flying in & out of TAI facilities. Only participating in certain airshows. I hope they deliver it ASAP.
Exactly. I don't share the same concerns with the Hurjet project for instance. But it's still sad seeing this cute little plane not getting the attention it deserves. It's been a decade.hurkus was not the target project. it is a stepping stone for hurjet.
I don't remember seeing or reading this anywhere. But it could very well be true. If that's the case, the future of this aircraft is uncertain. I haven't done CFD analysis on this bird but it "looks" like a stable design. The raked wingtip is not something we see very often on military trainers. Perhaps TAI tried to tame the aircraft this way. It went through certain design modifications over the years after all.Aircraft is too hard to fly and requires skill, hard to recover from a flat spin etc. That's why HYEU will be used by more skilled pilots.
Probably 15 Hürkuş B orders will be cancelled. 6 HYEU aircraft will be converted from existing airframes. Others will be exported.
I think it will reach serious number of exportsExactly. I don't share the same concerns with the Hurjet project for instance. But it's still sad seeing this cute little plane not getting the attention it deserves. It's been a decade.
Firstly get PD-170s into the service please.
As of September 2021, there is a news in the link below that more than 60 pd170 engines have been produced. If these engines were not mass-produced and not used, what could they have been produced for? It doesn't do it as a toy....Haha you think so. Serial production doesn't mean it's in use.
TUSAŞ Anka - Vikipedi
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TEI, 60'dan fazla TEI-PD170 motoru üretti
TEI, insansız hava araçlarına güç vermek için geliştirilen Türkiye’nin ilk turbodizel havacılık motoru PD170’ten 5 kilogram daha hafif ve 55 beygir daha güçlü PD222ST motorunu tanıttı. USAŞ Motor Sanayii AŞ (TEI), insansız hava araçlarına (İHA) güç vermek için geliştirilen Türkiye’nin ilk...m5dergi.com
I can confirm this is incorrect. X band GaN modules are ready and performing really well. The problem is not about the modules themselves it is about some outsourced components of the module. The amount of delay will be proportional to the amount of embargo we face. SSB announced a project to nationalize those components with a completion date of 09/2023 so if we can't get those components the project will be delayed at least a year.From as I heard before 4-5 months ago is that the radar currently uses foreign GaAs modules. Perfomance with GaAs modules were somewhere between APG-80(Maybe it was APG-68V9) and APG-83. They say with GaN modules performance will ramp up. Probably will be better than APG-83 Getting to modules, for now indigenous modules are not that great in terms of performce. They are currently in a good position on GaAs. But GaN modules have some problems like overheating etc. S band GaN modules are great but X band is a bit tricky. But from latest I heard schedule will be missed with a couple years.
what engine does the export versions of TB2 use tho? i heard three-bladed propeller means domestic engine but couldn't find any info on which engine it is?TEI Pd170 is used on Anka UAV. Serial production is carried out. It is also a finished product with export agreements.
Are imported modules GaN or GaAs?AFAIK modules and other foreign components was from SELEX ES..
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Well... Hurjet naval it is. Arda is speaking facts tho. TAI is acting like Skunkworks again by not releasing any images of Hurjet, therefore we can't really spot the progress. But let's assume everything is going according to plan. Designing a naval aircraft is a difficult task on its own, redesigning a jet trainer so that it can be used by the Navy must be even harder. When I visited TAI like a year ago I've heard that they were considering possible design alterations to the Hurjet platform (FYI I don't know if they were referring to Hurjet Naval, take this info with a grain of salt). And that was when the production line was empty. We shall wait & see.
We have our own national X band GaAs modules suitable for fighter radars it has an overwhelming amount of national contribution and we have no problems with its serial production. When Aselsans fighter radar is produced with those modules it performs somewhere between an APG-80 (UAE F-16 Block-60) and APG-83 (F-16V) better than the APG-83 and somewhat comes short compared to APG-80. Note that even though both APG-80 and 83 use GaAs modules, APG-80 is a far better radar than APG-83. Don't let 83-80 numbers fool you.Are imported modules GaN or GaAs?
Thank you!We have our own national X band GaAs modules suitable for fighter radars it has an overwhelming amount of national contribution and we have no problems with its serial production. When Aselsans fighter radar is produced with those modules it performs somewhere between an APG-80 (UAE F-16 Block-60) and APG-83 (F-16V) better than the APG-83 and somewhat comes short compared to APG-80. Note that even though both APG-80 and 83 use GaAs modules, APG-80 is a far better radar than APG-83. Don't let 83-80 numbers fool you.
We also have our own national X band GaN modules suitable for fighter radars but those modules are dependent on foreign components without those components we can't produce a complete module. When we try to change those components with whatever we find on the market problems like overheating arise. At the moment serial production of the national X band GaN modules for fighters radars can't be done without those components. SSB launched a project called "the development of components for GaN-based transmit/receive modules". The project will be finished on 09/2023. We can't get those components either because of military embargos or the reluctance of supplier companies because we will produce our own modules and cut their market.
I have no info about any GaN module (complete module not one or several components of the module) imported from Selex. I know Selex and Aselsan have close ties. I don't rule out the possibility of an interim solution. Selex might have rejected providing components but might have accepted providing the whole module.
Anyway, we will hear more from this project by the end of the year as Aselsan has to show something before 48 months finishes in December 2022 as it is the term of the official contract( December 2018-December 2022). I guess if a prototype can be readied as the contract demands, the nationalization of components for the serial production can be done while the prototype is in testing and optimization.
My friend, Turkey is the most democratic country in Europe. We are such a democratic country that even a deputy from the opposition party can say that a drone bomb was dropped on the picnickers''Siha Sezgin''.There is treason to the ruling party and the penalty is heavy, there is no treason to the country. For this reason, such strategic projects can be shelved in a possible management change. (MMU, Hisar, Bora, Satellite projects).There are certain projects that are beyond politics;
TFX , Ozgur, Milden, Milgem, National AD projects Hisar and Siper
Are just a few that no political entity will have the power to hinder or stop. Short of signing their political suicide or being framed as traitors, I can not see these or similar projects being put even on back burners by any one.
MIUS is also part of this puzzle. As the future of our air superiority depends on the success of this project, I have all the confidence that we will persevere to make these projects happen and come to fruition.
Short of signing their political suicide or being framed as traitors, I can not see these or similar projects being put even on back burners by any one
We could have been making these as well If Nuri demirağ's company was still running.
Thanks to adnan menderes again for destroying these
Dude, you live in the past.We could have been making these as well If Nuri demirağ's company was still running.
Thanks to adnan menderes again for destroying these
One thing that eludes some, about USA is that; in spite of their technological superiority and their economical prowess, they are governed by profit and loss. Those companies are giant private companies with a lot of pull in Congress and state departments. They have to present a healthy bottom line at the end of the year to their investors and share holders. That means cutting corners and economising where they can. Not introducing the latest tech and innovation until it is absolutely necessary.Do they (USA) have more experience, money, personal and resources? Yes, they have. But what is our advantage? We can fall back of current technologies and up to date findings. For example, no one in aviation use graphen, its the newest "technology" (material). We can easily switch to this material in our projects. Aother example is the using of the newest CPU. Or 3D printer, which we use right now.
Of course, USA is also able to use this technologies, but only for current projects, not for completed projects. Even they try, it would cost much money and work.