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Its official now

Gulen is the Turkish ayatollah.

yeah very similar to how the west installed the iranian theocracy we have today in Iran. Ak party were meant to incrementally move Turkiye towards an islamist sunni theocracy and eventually bring the american caliph back to Turkiye. Basically turning Turkiye into another failed state like Iran but with a Turkiye potentially pushing sunnia jihadism the way the iranians spread shia jihaddism/terrorism in the region, Turkiye and Iran would be global outcasts stuck in a self destructive rivalry that would burn out both nations.
 

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Germany blocks construction of nuclear power plants in Turkey and Hungary by Rosatom

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09:40, 16.02.23
German Siemens did not supply equipment to the Russians / REUTERS photo

The Germans do not supply the equipment to be installed at future nuclear power plants.

Germany has blocked the supply of equipment necessary for the construction of nuclear power plants in Turkey and Hungary for Rosatom Corporation. Writes about this "Kommersant".

According to the publication, so far there have been no formal notifications about the termination of supplies and the cancellation of the contract. However, the Federal Office for Economics and Export Control of Germany has not yet issued a permit to Siemens Energy to supply an integrated switchgear for the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, which the Russians are building in Turkey.

Also, the German authorities refused to issue a permit to Siemens Energy for the supply of a process control system for the Paks-2 nuclear power plant, which Rosatom is building in Hungary.
 

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Germany blocks construction of nuclear power plants in Turkey and Hungary by Rosatom

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09:40, 16.02.23
German Siemens did not supply equipment to the Russians / REUTERS photo

The Germans do not supply the equipment to be installed at future nuclear power plants.

Germany has blocked the supply of equipment necessary for the construction of nuclear power plants in Turkey and Hungary for Rosatom Corporation. Writes about this "Kommersant".

According to the publication, so far there have been no formal notifications about the termination of supplies and the cancellation of the contract. However, the Federal Office for Economics and Export Control of Germany has not yet issued a permit to Siemens Energy to supply an integrated switchgear for the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, which the Russians are building in Turkey.

Also, the German authorities refused to issue a permit to Siemens Energy for the supply of a process control system for the Paks-2 nuclear power plant, which Rosatom is building in Hungary.
As always, Germany being a top-class ally

What will happen to the program now? Will the Akkuyu NP open this year as planned or not?
 

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As always, Germany being a top-class ally

What will happen to the program now? Will the Akkuyu NP open this year as planned or not?

Like can I ask you a personal question? What is your level of education? Where do you see that German actions are directed towards Turkey in this particular case? It just affects Turkey and Hungary
 

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To be fair, Germany is following the sanction regulations of US & EU against Russian companies in aftermath of the Ukraine invasion.
 

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Like can I ask you a personal question? What is your level of education? Where do you see that German actions are directed towards Turkey in this particular case? It just affects Turkey and Hungary
If the news is true, then yes it is directed towards Turkey
Mate, lets not play this boring games

For one, Turkey's main reason for not going all in to support Ukraine is the fact that Turkey is dependent on cheap Russian gas; thus, it makes sense for Germany to try and speed up the Akkuyu NP to reduce Turkey's gas imports and Russian monopoly. Some may say that Akkuyu is built by Russia in the first place but for thowe who dont know, Russia is solely funding the project, in other words, if Russia stopped now then the Turkish nation wouldnt lose a cent while Russia lost 20 billion dollars


Moreover, if Germany is so lovingly following the sanctions, then why are they still buying Russian gas and oil? Rather than concentrating on the Akkuyu NP, shouldnt they concentrate on the billions they are giving Russia through illegal gas trades? Just open the Ukraine-Russia forum and you will see many leaked footages of EU tankers getting filled with Illegal Russian gas mid-sea

The fact that ppl believe that it isnt aimed at Turkey, if the news are true, at a time when Turkey is siffering a devastating earthquake and its economy taking a massive hit is a fqing shitty joke
 

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While there are many reasons for the dynamic structure of the Turkish defense industry and its radical rise, which even most Western analysts cannot properly define, one reason, big or small, is that we do not position the countries with which we have commercial relations in the defense industry only as countries to sell products to. With most of the countries to which we sell systems, we try to establish a relationship similar to that of an alliance, and we transfer capabilities beyond systems. Outside its hinterland, the Turkish state, with a political power incomparably smaller than that of the United States, can not create as much determinism in these strategic relations as the United States. In that case, we are putting things on the table that the US or other western countries cannot.

The most obvious example of this is the MILGEM program in Ukraine and Pakistan. Or remember how the Hürjet was offered to Malaysia in a package. Or many other things that many of us know about but I doubt whether they are in open sources. The agreement discussed above is actually a very small step, both in terms of TR's current vertical specialization and in terms of the industrial ambition in the UAE, and I doubt whether it is a strategic step. Very briefly, the quickest way to attract the UAE as an ally is for the UAE to believe that its interests lie in good relations with Turks.
I genuinely wonder, for medium countries like Turkey, Kazakhstan, KSA, UAE, Indonesia, Malaysia and BD what exactly can be considered as strategic relationship?

High degree of trade?
High level of defence cooperation?

Let's just say Turkey achieve both of this with all these countries mentioned above and more.

Still, the only thing these countries can genuinely offer Turkey is, solid political support on world stage.

Other than that realistically, they don't have the ability to intervene militarily if Turkey is under aggression.

Nor they will dare to break economic sanctions ( if placed upon on Turkey ) by superpowers.

And also, it goes other way around too for Turkey w.r.t the mentioned countries.

So, is just good trade/defence co-operation + political and moral support good enough to be considered as strategic relationship?

Or perhaps more truthfully, these are some good step stones for something ACTUALLY STRATEGIC in next 20/30 years and beyond when these above mentioned countries with more or less similar geopolitical interests would much more developed and economically stronger in a multi polar world.

I am curious what do you think?

Also, @what @Rodeo @Yasar @Knowledgeseeker @Ryder and others.
 
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I genuinely wonder, for medium countries like Turkey, Kazakhstan, KSA, UAE, Indonesia, Malaysia and BD what exactly can be considered as strategic relationship?

High degree of trade?
High level of defence cooperation?

Let's just say Turkey achieve both of this with all these countries mentioned above and more.

Still, the only thing these countries can genuinely offer Turkey is, solid political support on world stage.

Other than that realistically, they don't have the ability to intervene militarily if Turkey is under aggression.

Nor they will dare to break economic sanctions ( if placed upon on Turkey ) by superpowers.

And also, it goes other way around too for Turkey w.r.t the mentioned countries.

So, is just good trade/defence co-operation + political and moral support good enough to be considered as strategic relationship?

Or perhaps more truthfully, these are some good step stones for something ACTUALLY STRATEGIC in next 20/30 years and beyond when these above mentioned countries with more or less similar geopolitical interests would much more developed and economically stronger in a multi polar world.

I am curious what do you think?

Also, @Rodeo @Yasar @Knowledgeseeker @Ryder and others.
Bro, I deleted this post because it was off-topic. If you've recycled it, you should have quoted the whole message. :D
 

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Bro, I deleted this post because it was off-topic. If you've recycled it, you should have quoted the whole message. :D
Sorry, didn't know. But still interested in what you and others think.
 

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Looks like the EU is all in on reconstruction in the earthquake regions:



This is way beyond what one would have expected, but also shows us that Europe is still a friend of ours even after two difficult decades.
 

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Looks like the EU is all in on reconstruction in the earthquake regions:



This is way beyond what one would have expected, but also shows us that Europe is still a friend of ours even after two difficult decades.
They're going to try to sway the ethnic minorities in the area in their favor. So that they might become "useful" someday...
 

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