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They want to give them a feeling of protection that they have the support/protection of france.
Not really a threat to us our North cyprus at most 1-2k soldiers and some aircraft but the french don't really have resources to spare not to mention that they know that a turkish aggression is unlikely. Just symbolic to satisfy greek crying
Do you think there're actually GCs out there that think the French are actually there to protect them from Turks? I am thinking even they must know they're being used like a tampon.
 

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Do you think there're actually GCs out there that think the French are actually there to protect them from Turks? I am thinking even they must know they're being used like a tampon.
Yes just like there are americans that think that they spend more on nato than all others combined
 

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Just as Hakan Fidan said on numerous occasions; "Regardless of the numerous reasons the EU states for not accepting Turkey into the EU such as the rule of law etc; As long as Turkey is a muslim nation, the EU will never accept it into its ranks no matter what it does"


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Turkey's EU accession remains far off. ''The differences in history, culture, and religion play an important role in Europe.''

 

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And what’s new about that? That is precisely why Turkey should strategically turn its attention a little more towards the East and Far East, Nord and South – for example, towards BRICS+, the Turkic States, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and so on – and further diversify its economy and trade; at present, the ratio stands at 38% Europe and 62% the rest of the World.

The combined total trade volume highlights the long-term trend most clearly: around the year 2000, the ratio between EU trade and the rest of the world was exactly half-and-half (50:50). Since then, this ratio has steadily shifted toward roughly 38% EU to 62% rest of the world.

YearGlobal Total Volume ($ Bln)EU Share (%)Rest of the World (%)Global Total (%)
200082.350.0 %50.0 %100 %
2005190.349.5 %50.5 %100 %
2010299.441.7 %58.3 %100 %
2015351.040.7 %59.3 %100 %
2020388.936.8 %63.2 %100 %
2025638.938.5 %61.5 %100 %

The aim should be to increase the volume of trade with Europe even further, whilst at the same time reducing the percentage ratio to 33-34% for Europe and increasing it to 66-67% for the rest of the world.
From then on, Europe will come to us and knock on our door; from then on, they will be downgraded strategically as Customers.
 

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And what’s new about that? That is precisely why Turkey should strategically turn its attention a little more towards the East and Far East, Nord and South – for example, towards BRICS+, the Turkic States, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and so on – and further diversify its economy and trade; at present, the ratio stands at 38% Europe and 62% the rest of the World.

The combined total trade volume highlights the long-term trend most clearly: around the year 2000, the ratio between EU trade and the rest of the world was exactly half-and-half (50:50). Since then, this ratio has steadily shifted toward roughly 38% EU to 62% rest of the world.

YearGlobal Total Volume ($ Bln)EU Share (%)Rest of the World (%)Global Total (%)
200082.350.0 %50.0 %100 %
2005190.349.5 %50.5 %100 %
2010299.441.7 %58.3 %100 %
2015351.040.7 %59.3 %100 %
2020388.936.8 %63.2 %100 %
2025638.938.5 %61.5 %100 %

The aim should be to increase the volume of trade with Europe even further, whilst at the same time reducing the percentage ratio to 33-34% for Europe and increasing it to 66-67% for the rest of the world.
From then on, Europe will come to us and knock on our door; from then on, they will be downgraded strategically as Customers.
I want nothing to do with BRICs.
If I had to choose between BRICs and EU. the chose is obvious. And I cannot be the only one feeling that way.
And being in EU has nothing to do with Islam. France and Germany just don't want another big nation inside taking their limelight.
Best choice is staying out of EU like the UK.
 

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This certainly has something to do with Islam (whether moderate or conservative); with a population of 88 million, Turkey has more seats in the European Parliament than Germany. In Germany, Turks are viewed as a ‘fifth column’ (Threat) and regarded as a major problem in future think-tank papers, which is why they are now increasingly being excluded from key positions in logistics, at airports, in the police force, in the civil service, and so on. All it takes is a Turkish name and the alarm bells start ringing; I can already see it at my work (Company) here, where people are being overlooked and increasingly sidelined. I was born in Germany and work and live in Germany, but I’m here because of the work and money; otherwise I have no feelings whatsoever for Germany – only people who have lived in Germany from the start know the difference, and from Germany you get neither appreciation nor respect, because you’re a ‘cumin Turk’/Kurd or whatever. It may be that the East isn’t ideal, but it’s far more honest than the West; when you see how underhand the states are, at least you know it from the outset and always make provisions like Plan B, C and so on. And yet you’re not alone; there are still cultural ties, be it culture, religion or social life. Even if you treat them really well, they’d treat you like dirt as a country. If Turkey were to be attacked by Israel, France and Greece tomorrow, would officially condemn it from Europe – but behind the scenes they’d be cheering!

That is also true: economic and trade relations with Europe are fine; money has always been the right lubricant for stabilising relations, but culturally speaking, we should keep our distance and cease all further ties, instead cooperating with those countries economically on a purely transactional basis.
I’m not saying that the East is the future of Turkey, but that you should have a foot in both camps in East und West.
 
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This certainly has something to do with Islam (whether moderate or conservative); with a population of 88 million, Turkey has more seats in the European Parliament than Germany. In Germany, Turks are viewed as a ‘fifth column’ (Threat) and regarded as a major problem in future think-tank papers, which is why they are now increasingly being excluded from key positions in logistics, at airports, in the police force, in the civil service, and so on. All it takes is a Turkish name and the alarm bells start ringing; I can already see it at my work (Company) here, where people are being overlooked and increasingly sidelined. I was born in Germany and work and live in Germany, but I’m here because of the work and money; otherwise I have no feelings whatsoever for Germany – only people who have lived in Germany from the start know the difference, and from Germany you get neither appreciation nor respect, because you’re a ‘cumin Turk’/Kurd or whatever. It may be that the East isn’t ideal, but it’s far more honest than the West; when you see how underhand the states are, at least you know it from the outset and always make provisions like Plan B, C and so on. And yet you’re not alone; there are still cultural ties, be it culture, religion or social life. Even if you treat them really well, they’d treat you like dirt as a country. If Turkey were to be attacked by Israel, France and Greece tomorrow, would officially condemn it from Europe – but behind the scenes they’d be cheering!

That is also true: economic and trade relations with Europe are fine; money has always been the right lubricant for stabilising relations, but culturally speaking, we should keep our distance and cease all further ties, instead cooperating with those countries economically on a purely transactional basis.
I’m not saying that the East is the future of Turkey, but that you should have a foot in both camps in East und West.

The difference in religion might be an issue at first but in reality it has nothing to do with it. As you said in your post, if Turkiye ever joins the EU, the country would have the most seats in the parliament due to it being the most populated country. But the other most important thing is that the borders of the union would then be extented all the way to Syria, Iran, Irak… A big no no for the majority of people here.
 
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