Do you think there're actually GCs out there that think the French are actually there to protect them from Turks? I am thinking even they must know they're being used like a tampon.
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Yes just like there are americans that think that they spend more on nato than all others combined
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Erdoğan receives Venezuelan acting president in Istanbul - Türkiye News
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan received Venezuela’s acting president Delcy Rodríguez in Istanbul on June 8, with the two sides holding bilateral and delegation-level talks.
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Money laundering apparently.
Just as Hakan Fidan said on numerous occasions; "Regardless of the numerous reasons the EU states for not accepting Turkey into the EU such as the rule of law etc; As long as Turkey is a muslim nation, the EU will never accept it into its ranks no matter what it does"
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Turkey's EU accession remains far off. ''The differences in history, culture, and religion play an important role in Europe.''
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Turkey's EU accession remains far off. ''The differences in history, culture, and religion play an important role in Europe.''
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And what’s new about that? That is precisely why Turkey should strategically turn its attention a little more towards the East and Far East, Nord and South – for example, towards BRICS+, the Turkic States, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and so on – and further diversify its economy and trade; at present, the ratio stands at 38% Europe and 62% the rest of the World.
The combined total trade volume highlights the long-term trend most clearly: around the year 2000, the ratio between EU trade and the rest of the world was exactly half-and-half (50:50). Since then, this ratio has steadily shifted toward roughly 38% EU to 62% rest of the world.
The aim should be to increase the volume of trade with Europe even further, whilst at the same time reducing the percentage ratio to 33-34% for Europe and increasing it to 66-67% for the rest of the world.
From then on, Europe will come to us and knock on our door; from then on, they will be downgraded strategically as Customers.
The combined total trade volume highlights the long-term trend most clearly: around the year 2000, the ratio between EU trade and the rest of the world was exactly half-and-half (50:50). Since then, this ratio has steadily shifted toward roughly 38% EU to 62% rest of the world.
| Year | Global Total Volume ($ Bln) | EU Share (%) | Rest of the World (%) | Global Total (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2000 | 82.3 | 50.0 % | 50.0 % | 100 % |
| 2005 | 190.3 | 49.5 % | 50.5 % | 100 % |
| 2010 | 299.4 | 41.7 % | 58.3 % | 100 % |
| 2015 | 351.0 | 40.7 % | 59.3 % | 100 % |
| 2020 | 388.9 | 36.8 % | 63.2 % | 100 % |
| 2025 | 638.9 | 38.5 % | 61.5 % | 100 % |
The aim should be to increase the volume of trade with Europe even further, whilst at the same time reducing the percentage ratio to 33-34% for Europe and increasing it to 66-67% for the rest of the world.
From then on, Europe will come to us and knock on our door; from then on, they will be downgraded strategically as Customers.
I want nothing to do with BRICs.
If I had to choose between BRICs and EU. the chose is obvious. And I cannot be the only one feeling that way.
And being in EU has nothing to do with Islam. France and Germany just don't want another big nation inside taking their limelight.
Best choice is staying out of EU like the UK.
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This certainly has something to do with Islam (whether moderate or conservative); with a population of 88 million, Turkey has more seats in the European Parliament than Germany. In Germany, Turks are viewed as a ‘fifth column’ (Threat) and regarded as a major problem in future think-tank papers, which is why they are now increasingly being excluded from key positions in logistics, at airports, in the police force, in the civil service, and so on. All it takes is a Turkish name and the alarm bells start ringing; I can already see it at my work (Company) here, where people are being overlooked and increasingly sidelined. I was born in Germany and work and live in Germany, but I’m here because of the work and money; otherwise I have no feelings whatsoever for Germany – only people who have lived in Germany from the start know the difference, and from Germany you get neither appreciation nor respect, because you’re a ‘cumin Turk’/Kurd or whatever. It may be that the East isn’t ideal, but it’s far more honest than the West; when you see how underhand the states are, at least you know it from the outset and always make provisions like Plan B, C and so on. And yet you’re not alone; there are still cultural ties, be it culture, religion or social life. Even if you treat them really well, they’d treat you like dirt as a country. If Turkey were to be attacked by Israel, France and Greece tomorrow, would officially condemn it from Europe – but behind the scenes they’d be cheering!
That is also true: economic and trade relations with Europe are fine; money has always been the right lubricant for stabilising relations, but culturally speaking, we should keep our distance and cease all further ties, instead cooperating with those countries economically on a purely transactional basis.
I’m not saying that the East is the future of Turkey, but that you should have a foot in both camps in East und West.
That is also true: economic and trade relations with Europe are fine; money has always been the right lubricant for stabilising relations, but culturally speaking, we should keep our distance and cease all further ties, instead cooperating with those countries economically on a purely transactional basis.
I’m not saying that the East is the future of Turkey, but that you should have a foot in both camps in East und West.
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The difference in religion might be an issue at first but in reality it has nothing to do with it. As you said in your post, if Turkiye ever joins the EU, the country would have the most seats in the parliament due to it being the most populated country. But the other most important thing is that the borders of the union would then be extented all the way to Syria, Iran, Irak… A big no no for the majority of people here.
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It has almost everything to do with religion.
That's is pretty clear. Let me not go into polemics, they don't like me at all though I am European
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There will always be people that will be racist, unfortunately, but I don’t think that religion plays a role here. Even if Turkiye would be Christian, it is highly unlikely that the country would be allowed into the Union, mostly for the reasons I wrote in my previous post and the fact that Europe always used Turkiye as a buffer zone, creating a barrier to delimit themselves from the M-E. I think you understand the implication that would mean for the EU if Turkiye joins it. Even Putin had interest in a hypothetical adhesion of Russia when he took power in the early 2000’s. I think you know the result…
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They don't like me and I am white, so it's not that religion doesn't play the role if not decisive.
If Turkey was a Christian country I think that Turkey would be a member.
In fact, even thing which do not require of someone being a part of EU are not available for Turkiye.
Even the thing which would be very beneficial for Europe are not being done with Turkiye.
Believe me , even now if it possible, they would rather join with the Russians. Fortunately, for time being it doesn't work.
That's how it has always been and how it will be in the future .
Do you understand that the great deal of stuff that these people do are against their interests? Let alone Turkiye
I am writing this and my position isn't totally Anti European, it is just anti this rubbish.
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Unfortunately Tengrism couldn't survive the rise of Abrahmic religions. And thus the majority of Turks either got assimilated into Christian nations or became culturally Arab/Persian.
If we didn't have Atatürk I fear we would have disintegrated completely.
If we didn't have Atatürk I fear we would have disintegrated completely.
I don't know if this is the right thread for this but I really wanna hear people's opinion about it
Prof. Menachem Lorberbaum from Tel Aviv University claimed that they have utilized Turkey's secular Turkish and Kurdish segments in every field.
Lorberbaum stated that Turkey's secularization was a successful project they had designed decades ago with their Sabbatean relatives.
He asserted that the currents of nationalization, nationalism, and rising racism in the country were their own handiwork. He argued that with this strategy, society was detached from its Roma-Ottoman mindset and directed solely toward Central Asia.
The professor finally expressed that this social engineering project they implemented had also achieved partial success in Pakistan.
Prof. Menachem Lorberbaum from Tel Aviv University claimed that they have utilized Turkey's secular Turkish and Kurdish segments in every field.
Lorberbaum stated that Turkey's secularization was a successful project they had designed decades ago with their Sabbatean relatives.
He asserted that the currents of nationalization, nationalism, and rising racism in the country were their own handiwork. He argued that with this strategy, society was detached from its Roma-Ottoman mindset and directed solely toward Central Asia.
The professor finally expressed that this social engineering project they implemented had also achieved partial success in Pakistan.
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You always have to be careful with these guys, they are master manipulators and relentless liars. FETO, in fact pretty much all western backed islamists worked to attack secularism. If secularism was bad for Turkiye, the american owned islamists wouldn't work to remove it from Turkiye. Its the same reason Tom Barrack openly says the nation state is bad for Turkiye and its better to go back to the Ottoman way. What this really means if for Turks to give autonomy to minorities, to weaken the Turkish state to the benefit of the americans, divide and conquer.
Once you remove secularism within Turkiye, the differences between the various peoples will only intensify and make the soil more fertile for division and conflict.
I've visited Turkiye many times, secularism is fine. The majority of people are muslim and have no issues practicing their religion. A secular nation also had no problems voting in an Islamist party for the past 20 years.
When it comes to Turkiye they attack us on being Turks, they attack us on looking white, they attack us on being secular, they attack us from every single direction. The intention is to destabilise us, to undermine us. Because the Turk is the only real challenge to Zionism in the region.
Also keep in mind the zionist agenda is show all Muslims as radical and extreme, turn Turkiye into an islamist caliphate and they will have an easy day raising a new crusade against Turkiye.
The best thing for Turkiye would be to entirely uphold the secular system while having a government that conforms to traditional Turkish/Muslim values.
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I don't buy any of this, we saw a similar thing in the Epstein files, all just manipulation of facts.
The CIA has backed Islamists in Türkiye for decades, Israel literally backed Islamists against secular Palestinian resistance because it knew the latter would be a much bigger problem.
Israel doesn't want to be neighbors with Japan, Germany or South Korea. It wants to be neighbors with Libya, Afghanistan or Somalia. Competent neighbors are a threat.
