TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Lonewolf]

Exactly. It's overtly aggressive. They can reduce induction timeline if they want to be strictly a trainer. In that case, weapon integrations or drop tanks can take a back seat.

I have my reservation on the timeline as well. But willing to wait. We will know by end of this year if a prototype is rolled out or not. There is no need to overtly argue over something like timelines when there is still time left.

I asked for a mere piece of news that hurjet is in manufacturing phase ,but all i got was hollow replies except a few ,which also didn't gave anything supporting their statements like if their is a tender for any subcomponent etc

 

[Lonewolf]

You can see the final status of the Hürjet from page 47.

Dergi - TUSAS

Dergi

www.tusas.com

He is assertiing on 2023 ff , but not on roll out by 2021 end , which was my point of discussion .

 

[Combat-Master]

Updated specs for Hurjet;

HURJET - DIMENSIONS / PERFORMANCE FIGURES​

Length	13.6 m / 44,6 ft
Height	5.1 m / 16,7 ft
Wingspan	9.5 m / 31 ft
Wing Area	35 m2/ 270 ft2
Thrust	17600 lb
Service Ceiling	13716 m / 45000 ft
Sustain Turn 5.5 g @ 15000 ft	< 0.9 Mach
Rate of Climb	39000 fpm
Range	2222 km / 1200 nm
Payload Capacity	2721 kg / 6000 lbs
Maximum Speed	1.4 Mach
G Limits	+8g / -3g

Old specs' 06/03/21*	Updated specs' 20/08/21*

 

[Test7]

Mid fuselage only , and some participation in maintenance work , avionics and all were all american , seat is british , armament are country specific .

Mid Fuselage only? Look like you have a long way to go in the forum

3 different color tones show the parts where 3 different Turkish companies produce and take place.

 

[Combat-Master]

Hurjet Cockpit Simulator

HURKUS-B

 

[Siper>MMU]

Hurjet Cockpit Simulator
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HURKUS-B
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Hürjet simualtors many buttons are unfunctional. It is like a demonstrator

 

[Bilal Khan(Quwa)]

I have a question.

I noticed that TAI lists the Hürjet's payload at 2,721 kg. However, KAI says that it's T-50 (which uses the same engine as the Hürjet) has a payload of 3,140 kg.

Is the difference in payload due to different design decisions? For example, did KAI focus on reinforcing parts of the airframe (e.g., wings) to enable the greater payload? Or is TAI planning to develop a more fighter-like variant of the Hürjet that would have heavier payload? I know TAI is positioning the Hürjet as a 'light attack aircraft,' but is it in the context of the current variant? @Cabatli_53 @Nilgiri @Nutuk

 

[Yasar_TR]

I have a question.

I noticed that TAI lists the Hürjet's payload at 2,721 kg. However, KAI says that it's T-50 (which uses the same engine as the Hürjet) has a payload of 3,740 kg.

Is the difference in payload due to different design decisions? For example, did KAI focus on reinforcing parts of the airframe (e.g., wings) to enable the greater payload? Or is TAI planning to develop a more fighter-like variant of the Hürjet that would have heavier payload? I know TAI is positioning the Hürjet as a 'light attack aircraft,' but is it in the context of the current variant? @Cabatli_53 @Nilgiri @Nutuk

KAI-T50
MTOW : 12300kg
Fuel : 2690kg
Empty wt : 6470kg
payload : 3140 kg

 

[Nilgiri]

I have a question.

I noticed that TAI lists the Hürjet's payload at 2,721 kg. However, KAI says that it's T-50 (which uses the same engine as the Hürjet) has a payload of 3,740 kg.

Is the difference in payload due to different design decisions? For example, did KAI focus on reinforcing parts of the airframe (e.g., wings) to enable the greater payload? Or is TAI planning to develop a more fighter-like variant of the Hürjet that would have heavier payload? I know TAI is positioning the Hürjet as a 'light attack aircraft,' but is it in the context of the current variant? @Cabatli_53 @Nilgiri @Nutuk

They may uprate the payload capacity later (and take a hit on range) if it calls for it (either on original model or variant).

You will notice right now there is a design point picked with a longer range than T-50 ~ (2600 km vs 1800 km) so that would determine the projected payload capacity of Hurjet TD they have relatively frozen (I assume) right now.

Overall I would wait for Hurjet to be produced and flown to get good idea on the final parameters and how TAI takes that forward in any variants etc.

 

[Abdelaziz]

Any thoughs on what are the surprises ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1437035683160502272

Could be hurjet prototip ?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Any thoughs on what are the surprises ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1437035683160502272

Göksungur!

 

[Siper>MMU]

Göksungur!

I hope it turns out as Hürjet prototype..

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1437771481631629324

Hürjet, Hürjeeet, HÜRJEEEEEET!

 

[Rajendra Chola]

I have a question.

I noticed that TAI lists the Hürjet's payload at 2,721 kg. However, KAI says that it's T-50 (which uses the same engine as the Hürjet) has a payload of 3,140 kg.

Is the difference in payload due to different design decisions? For example, did KAI focus on reinforcing parts of the airframe (e.g., wings) to enable the greater payload? Or is TAI planning to develop a more fighter-like variant of the Hürjet that would have heavier payload? I know TAI is positioning the Hürjet as a 'light attack aircraft,' but is it in the context of the current variant? @Cabatli_53 @Nilgiri @Nutuk

Can be updated after some testing with real prototype models. Since it's only an trainer and not an full fledged fighter as of now, it seems alright.

Later if they want to integrate drop tanks, and based on design, they can increase MTOW.
Last for Tejas, they have officially increased payload from 3500 to 4000kg as it is a full fledged fighter.

 

[Nutuk]

We just might see Hurjet flying in a few days time

I was seeing you flying hahaha, sorry I had to make the remark.

You won't see Hurjet flying before they milked out all show makings / PR stunts like roll out ceremonials etc. etc.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

You won't see Hurjet flying before they milked out all show makings / PR stunts like roll out ceremonials etc. etc.

That's how it is everywhere!
You make it sound like it's a bad thing!

 

[Nutuk]

That's how it is everywhere!
You make it sound like it's a bad thing!

PR stunt is not the bad thing, in the west the companies do that to get in the picture, in Turkey the politicians do it to get in the picture (tiny difference)

 

[Lool]

PR stunt is not the bad thing, in the west the companies do that to get in the picture, in Turkey the politicians do it to get in the picture (tiny difference)

Yup, I agree. There is a 100% possibility that there will be a ceremony for the Hurjet


However, do keep in mind that the West makes airfighters for over 30 years already; thus, these PR stunts arent used a lot by politicians since the Western ppl think that it is COMMON for their companies to produce jets and always be ahead in the market. You dont react to what is percieved as NORMAL to you. Politicians normally want to convey to the ppl.... "Look at what we did during our tenure and our alone... etc"
For Turkey, a country that didnt possess the tech to produce even the smallest aircrafts in the 90s; suddenly developing a jet is a good promo for the politician in place. No doubt about that
And it isnt a bad thing. Just look at South Korea, as an example! They produce brand new phones every year that helps the country earn billions; yet, no politicians attend their ceremonies as it is NORMAL for companies like Samsung to always be at the top. However, when the Roll out of KFX fighter took place, all politicians were present in the venue since it is the first time they reached this milestone. The same applies to Turkey and each other country

 

[Turko]

Looking forward to seeing the composite version of Hurkus!

Hürjet made from composite materials wouldn't be better?

 

[Zafer]

PR stunt is not the bad thing, in the west the companies do that to get in the picture, in Turkey the politicians do it to get in the picture (tiny difference)

I wonder who in the government needs to get in the picture. Utterly ridiculous statements.