TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

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Assuming a flight-worthy Hürjet is finished in September, will six months of ground-testing be enough for the first flight on March 18th, 2023?
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Best answer to this question is to look at the Tusas’s timeline for MMU. After March 2023 when the plane comes out of hangar under it’s own power, it will have to wait till 2025, may be even until 2026 before it’s first flight. OK, MMU is a stealthy top end twin engined large fighter jet with a lot of stuff to have before it will fly. But still, Hurjet too, is a plane that will have a lot of avionics and electronics that MMU pilot candidates will train on. So it is not a simple plane either.
Besides when prototype planes fly for the first time, they are furnished fairly basic.
Also I can’t imagine Tusas will allow cameras to film a crash at first flight if something unforeseen happens - god forbid! They will probably fly that plane few times before we see it flying.
The timeline is too tight for comfort when logic dictates, to be honest.
But on the plus side, there is the promise that Mr Kotil and Mr Demir made to everyone that this plane will fly in March 2023. Their word and reputation is on the line. So we will see.
 

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Best answer to this question is to look at the Tusas’s timeline for MMU. After March 2023 when the plane comes out of hangar under it’s own power, it will have to wait till 2025, may be even until 2026 before it’s first flight. OK, MMU is a stealthy top end twin engined large fighter jet with a lot of stuff to have before it will fly. But still, Hurjet too, is a plane that will have a lot of avionics and electronics that MMU pilot candidates will train on. So it is not a simple plane either.
Besides when prototype planes fly for the first time, they are furnished fairly basic.
Also I can’t imagine Tusas will allow cameras to film a crash at first flight if something unforeseen happens - god forbid! They will probably fly that plane few times before we see it flying.
The timeline is too tight for comfort when logic dictates, to be honest.
But on the plus side, there is the promise that Mr Kotil and Mr Demir made to everyone that this plane will fly in March 2023. Their word and reputation is on the line. So we will see.
I think the main reason for this very fast track of maiden flight is this Malaysian deal.

But on the other hand, I am hoping TUSAŞ got its lessons from Hürkuş. Expecting very distanced duties from the very same plane might be catastrophic for the project even if the plane itself is good.
 

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Assuming a flight-worthy Hürjet is finished in September, will six months of ground-testing be enough for the first flight on March 18th, 2023?
@Yasar @Zafer @Cabatli_53 @TheInsider @Bogeyman @Nilgiri

You could potentially do it in 6 months if you strictly prioritise what are the core things to be proven and certified. i.e safety based things only.

Then you can do further testing (normally done in phase 1 as well ) that are more capacity and capability related .....concurrently with the flight testing phase instead.

Its ambitious to say the least....and the total development time will still be more or less the same (holding all else the same for argument sake), you just get the earliest (safe + basic config) first flight possible.
 

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Maybe these are the stats for the early trainer versions?
Not really sure on that one. According to the Farnborough guys the aircraft is 14 meters in length. The brochure says it's 13.6 or smth. And the top speed is not mach 1.4, it's actually mach 1.3. That is, of course, according to the latest info obtained by TAI themselves.

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The (proejcted) technical data is identical to the one stated in the information brochure for Hurjet available on TAI's website. Considering the brochure also mentions a respective feature for AJT & LCA (eg. Aerial refueling - dry for AJT, wet for LCA), this is the final specs.

I wish someone could ask TAI officials if that range of 2222km is Ferry Range with a drop tank. In fact, It will be interesting if the company discloses Empty Weight, MTOW, internal fuel capacity and TWR of Hurjet at the airshow
 

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The (proejcted) technical data is identical to the one stated in the information brochure for Hurjet available on TAI's website. Considering the brochure also mentions a respective feature for AJT & LCA (eg. Aerial refueling - dry for AJT, wet for LCA), this is the final specs.

I wish someone could ask TAI officials if that range of 2222km is Ferry Range with a drop tank. In fact, It will be interesting if the company discloses Empty Weight, MTOW, internal fuel capacity and TWR of Hurjet at the airshow
I disagree. TAI tends not to update their website, their brochures & all of that. Plus, the design you see here is different from the mock-up that is being exhibited. I'm 95% sure these stats are old.
 
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The (proejcted) technical data is identical to the one stated in the information brochure for Hurjet available on TAI's website. Considering the brochure also mentions a respective feature for AJT & LCA (eg. Aerial refueling - dry for AJT, wet for LCA), this is the final specs.

I wish someone could ask TAI officials if that range of 2222km is Ferry Range with a drop tank. In fact, It will be interesting if the company discloses Empty Weight, MTOW, internal fuel capacity and TWR of Hurjet at the airshow
What is your thoughts on this project?
 

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