TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Merzifonlu]

Because there are options for that class of engine ?

Based on 2 x AI-322F Ukraine engines. Twin engine Hurjet. May be replaced with TEI TF10000 in the future. But even in this case I would start after the delivery of the engines. Hopefully that F404s will be delivered in January-2023. But my guess is they won't deliver on that date. If they have such intentions, of course!

 

[Zafer]

Based on 2 x AI-322F Ukraine engines. Twin engine Hurjet. May be replaced with TEI TF10000 in the future. But even in this case I would start after the delivery of the engines. Hopefully that F404s will be delivered in January-2023. But my guess is they won't deliver on that date. If they have such intentions, of course!

They have 46% share in TEI, we can take it out on them badly if they won't. They can face supply chain problems like we do.

 

[Quasar]

Temel Kotil called the GE CEO and scolded him. Now they will deliver us the engine produced for another aircraft.

''the engine produced for another aircraft'' very interesting Which variant of F404 we are planing to use for HÜRJET? F404-GE 102 (KAI T-50 17.700 Ib), F404-GE 103 (RED HAWK 17.700 Ib)?

-NOT F404-GE 402(F/A 18 17.700 Ib), F404-GE RIM12(Gripen 18.100 Ib) or F404-IN20 (Tejas 19.000 Ib) for sure I guess ...

 

[Baryshx]

very interesting Which variant of F404 we are planing to use for HÜRJET? F404-GE 102 (KAI T-50 17.700 Ib), F404-GE 103 (RED HAWK 17.700 Ib)?

-NOT F404-GE 402(F/A 18 17.700 Ib), F404-GE RIM12(Gripen 18.100 Ib) or F404-IN20 (Tejas 19.000 Ib) for sure I guess ...

It is mentioned that it is F404-GE-102, although not certain

 

[Rooxbar]

Kızıl Elma and Hürjet in terms of their engine needs are absolutely incommensurable. Hürjet is a trainer and trainers do crazy hours and need very sturdy engines with regards to their repairability (and we know how Soviet tech fairs compared to western engines in this respect). Another issue is that two AI-322Fs would weigh almost a 100 kilos more than a F404. Then there's also fuel consumption which is about 20% more.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Ismail Demir: "We made offers to many countries for HÜRJET. We are not only thinking of sales, but also of partnership"

 

[Agha Sher]

Ismail Demir “Hurjet will fly in 2023”.

I fear that this indicates a delay, since he is not specific…

 

[Siper>MMU]

Hürjet is lagging behind because of engines

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

TF-X is moving fast while Hurjet is lagging behind…

feeling mixed about this. Hurjet’s first flight is more important than TF-X’s rollout right now

TAI General Manager Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil:

HÜRJET is doing very well. Getting ready to fly soon. Within the scope of the project, 2 flyable prototype aircraft and 1 static and 1 fatigue test aircraft are produced to be used in test activities.

 

[Turan]

TUSAŞ:

 

[TheInsider]

It seems like 29 October 2024 is not an impossible date for the first flight.

 

[Zafer]

Hürjet rolls out and flies within 3 months after rollout; TFX rolls out and spends 2 years dilly dallying before it can fly. What is the matter with TFX, being twin engine can not be that much harder.

 

[MADDOG]

Hürjet rolls out and flies within 3 months after rollout; TFX rolls out and spends 2 years dilly dallying before it can fly. What is the matter with TFX, being twin engine can not be that much harder.

Please note that the aircraft that is going to rollout, is not the prototype that will fly. Most of the systems currently on the plane are prototypes waiting to be tested as well. It's an incredibly complex process.

 

[Combat-Master]

Please note that the aircraft that is going to rollout, is not the prototype that will fly. Most of the systems currently on the plane are prototypes waiting to be tested as well. It's an incredibly complex process.

Isn't Hurjet going to borrow some systems from Hurkus ?

 

[MADDOG]

Isn't Hurjet going to borrow some systems from Hurkus ?

Not sure if I would refer to it as "borrowing". But you're right. You could theoretically make connections between Hürkuş and Hürjet. I was referring to the TF-X tho.

 

[Baryshx]

As far as I see, they rushed TFX's prototype and rollout because of some people* that is why, we won't see it flying for a longer time, some parts or design might change, it looks very different than the mockup or previous designs as well, but Hurjet looks finalized, I believe it will fly and LRIP might start sooner than expected.

Same problem with Atak 2, probably rushed.. and it will have engine problems, because Engines = Ukraine = War.. unless they drop Ukrainian engines and use TEI T700..

Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil: Hürjet is doing very well. It is getting ready to fly soon.

Within the scope of the project, two flyable prototype aircraft, one static and one fatigue test aircraft are being produced to be used in test activities.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1608814740360552450

 

[Xenon54]

TF-X is moving fast while Hurjet is lagging behind…

feeling mixed about this. Hurjet’s first flight is more important than TF-X’s rollout right now

Probably because Hürjet does not have priority, we need 5th gen urgently so TFX wil get all the attention first.

 

[Lool]

As far as I see, they rushed TFX's prototype and rollout because of some people* that is why, we won't see it flying for a longer time, some parts or design might change, it looks very different than the mockup or previous designs as well, but Hurjet looks finalized, I believe it will fly and LRIP might start sooner than expected.

Same problem with Atak 2, probably rushed.. and it will have engine problems, because Engines = Ukraine = War.. unless they drop Ukrainian engines and use TEI T700..

As far as I know, the main reason why Hurjet is delayed isnt because of some people speeding up the program but rather the fact that most of TAI's well-seasoned engineers are solely working on the TFX in a spectacular 3-shifts per day 24/7. In fact, according to previous posts, most of the Hurjet employees are young engineers who are switching back and forth between the TFX and Hurjet in order to gain experience from the older teams and then pour that info into the Hurjet. This takes time and, mistakes are bound to be made which will postpone the completion date. In fact, I remember one member posting a video about some TAI engineers fixing a mistake they made on one of the Hurjet prototypes

 

[NitricAcid]

HURJET's flight control computer was developed in Malaysia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613170455984078850

 

[Cabatli_TR]

HURJET consists of around 10,000 parts. After the 4th prototype, an combat aircraft version will also be produced. Except for the Static Test Aircraft, 4 prototypes will be produced in flying condition for HURJET.