TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[dBSPL]

Single seated hurjet with a bigger Radome, more fuel+payload as light combat aircraft. It would be an excellent quality choice for air forces that can't afford traditional expensive 4.5th gen fighter in numbers. (Usually costing $150-200 millions each)

I think KAI's development of a single-seat variant for the FA-50 is also ongoing, not canceled. Of course, I'm not sure how reliable the internet sources are, my assurance is wikipedia (lol). Still, there is no reason why they shouldn't continue, they can further improve the range and payload capacity of the aircraft by lightening the canopy.

If my memory serves me right, the former TAI GM Kotil stated in one of his television interviews that the first prototype would not be the final aircraft in terms of structural qualities, that the aircraft would be lighter in production and that its maximum lift capacity would be increased in combatant variant without compromising range and maximum speed. In addition to structural improvements, a series of avionic improvements, perhaps planned as a few blocks, would also accompany this. Since we already have a KAI example working with the same series engine in FA-50, it would be a realistic approach to estimate that the payload capacity of the light attack variant of the Hürjet could be close to 4 tons or at least over 3,5.

For example, it could be a highly capable jet that could carry two 300/370 gal nato standard drop tanks on the inner pylons and 2 medium range cruise missiles or 8 SDBs on the outer pylons, and that it could carry two A-A missiles on the wingtips and an IRST or EW mission pod under the fuselage, as well as packed with a highly efficient AESA radar. In any case, it is not the kind of long-range air-interdiction that one would expect from much larger and powerfull aircrafts, but it can reach a flight radius of approximately 1500 km with drop tanks, reach a maximum lifting capacity of around 3.5-4 tons with the developments to be made, and thanks to its qualified avionics equipment and capabilities, it can provide a cost-effective solution in many air forces of the world, including some Strike and CAP type missions.

Nevertheless, I personally wish that while AJT side have stayed on efficiency with the F404, but for the combat variant have gone with an engine with the same diameter and without a dramatic dry weight difference, but with a higher continuous maximum power output. For example single-seat, STOBAR-capable light attack jet powered by an F414. Without working another airframe, structural and avionic improvements to the extent of TAI's capabilities, as well as a 20/25% more powerful engine configuration, could lead to higher top speed limits, turn rate and climb capability, and perhaps more than double the payload capacity specified for the Hürjet AJT, making the Hürjet N/LCA one of the strongest players in the light attack aircraft market within the possible fastest way.

 

[selim]

I don't know what other arguments to give you, half of Europe and the USA don't see the country as a partner but as a competitor.

They don't want to supply high technology by any means because they know Turkey will not only use these systems to defend their hard & soft power in their region and also outside.
They will do 100% reverse engineering to get knowledge about new systems and their hard & software from USA & Europe to improve and speed up their own systems.
The Russians and Chinese would jerk off live in front of the camera if they were given such access.

The Eurofighter Tranche 3/4 is one of the best and most modern fighter aircraft in the world it is comparable to the F-15 Super Eagle of the USA.
It doesn't matter if it has stealth or not, half the world doesn't even have stealth fighters and it's not going to change much in the next 20 years.

This is a win to win situation for Turkey because 40 Eurofighters are no leverage for Europe which in turn makes Turkey appear totally uncapable of acting if these Eurofighters would be sanctioned by the Eurofighter consortium e.g. with the refusal of spare parts and ammunition because Turkey does strategically & politically what they do not like.
Turkey has always been very resourceful when it comes to spare parts and modification of systems they would find a way to keep the Eurofighters operational and they know that.

The real problem is in sight of USA & Co when Turkey is able to develop weapons systems that really have a significant capability, even in the opinion of the Western states, and then export them to Pakistan and other countries, for example.
Then an era of war by the USA & Co. in the Middle East etc. on country XY ends. Because war is their business.
Then war becomes very expensive for the USA because the opponent may have weapons systems of NATO standard/quality, in the USA wars run together with public opinion, nobody gives a shit if a country at the other end of the world is bombed into the Stone Age, but everything tips over if too many US soldiers bite the dust then you have the same situation as in Vietnam.

Off course, the "West" does see Turkey as a competitor
There's no infinite growth.
When Turkey expands influence and power it does so at the expense of other powers.

In Caucasus the French, USA wielded influence for 30 years through Minsk-Group without producing any results.
Now Azerbaijan calls the shots in Caucasus, Russia and Turkey share the remaining influence.
In Libya they were wielding influence and exploiting Libya's ressources, now Russia and Turkey decide what happens in Libya.

In Sahel, Balkans, Somalia, Qatar, Libya, Caucasus everywhere Turkish influence expands it does so at the expense of someone else.

They do not like Turkey, they don't want Turkey to expand influence to their disadvantage.
Turkey is expanding with military capabilities into those regions.
Hence, they try to restrict Turkish military capabilities.

 

[Saithan]

nice discussions. I am very happy to see the second prototype of Hürjet fly, and I hope we're closer to finalizing the trainer jet version and we order those engines, of course having them built in TEI's facilities would be the best solution and I think that might be very possible with Trump at the rudder.

If anyone thinks of complaining over the old reliable engine I'm going to on ppl.

We'll see the lightarmed version when it's ready, but for now it's more important to start building the trainers., many of them.