TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Yasar_TR]

No, they are retiring their old F-18C/D Hornets to replace them with F-35s; they never operated the F-18E/F. This was always their plan since 2000s.

The US is Becoming Dependent on a Single Platform

On the other hand, it is assessed that the Pentagon is also taking a significant structural risk with this transformation.

The operational load, which was previously distributed among Harrier, Hornet, and other platforms, will become largely dependent on the F-35 ecosystem in the future. While this provides advantages in terms of logistics and training, it increases the risk of global technical or supply-related problems affecting the entire fleet.

Despite this, the Washington administration is accelerating the F-35-centric structure, considering that low visibility, sensor fusion, and distributed operational capabilities surpass those of classic fourth-generation platforms in the future war environment.

You are half right about Hornets. They were originally used on carriers too. Then replaced with SuperHornets. But SuperHornets are being phased out too. No more being manufactured and after 2030, every time a carrier is in docks for maintenance they will be replaced by F35Cs. By 2040 there will be none in service. A new 6th gen NGAD is supposed to replace it in the future.

So the gist of the main argument is still the same :

We need a stealthy plane on that MUGEM.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Maintenance nightmare.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Maintenance nightmare.

You think a navalised Hurjet will not be a nightmare?
Which is better; nightmarish but stealthy jet fighter or simple to manage but easily shot jet?

 

[Strong AI]

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For a carrier based Hurjet it seems that they are looking at a plane with much bigger wing area.
But this plane is not stealthy.
US marines are giving up on the Super Hornet usage from their carriers. Going forward it will be just F35Cs and F35Bs as of post 2030.
In the West, UK and Italy will be employing stealth jets-F35Bs as well.

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Chinese are employing stealth jets from their carriers too.

So far, France is the only major power that has not taken the stealth route.

Since we have a stealthy engine coming up soon in the form of TF10000, it would be stupid to go forward with a non stealthy Hurjet.
Just downsize KAAN to a Hurjet size twin engined single and twin seater plane with TF10000s. It would be easier and cheaper to make it sturdier and with it’s smaller size stealthier.

I hope decision makers are forward thinking people.

IMO a downsized KAAN would get the same sensors as twin-engine KE/ANKA, and would have less payload capacity. We could pack Naval Hürjet full with EW and make fly those stealthy UCAVs right at the edge of that protection bubble created by EW Hürjet. We need a carrier capable unmanned AEW.

 

[Saithan]

I honestly don't think we are there yet. Nor in 5 years time.

I'd like to remind you of what we're lacking. Just for TurAF alone....

Naval jet would be a whole new thing for TN....

We need to at least cover some of our bases Land forces, TurAF before spreading out, and ending up with what ?

IMO too much is going on atm, and I can't see where we'll be. With something in our hand or nothing in our hand.

If our success depends on external factors, then we're doomed to fail.

 

[Pokemonte13]

IMO a downsized KAAN would get the same sensors as twin-engine KE/ANKA, and would have less payload capacity. We could pack Naval Hürjet full with EW and make fly those stealthy UCAVs right at the edge of that protection bubble created by EW Hürjet. We need a carrier capable unmanned AEW.

I think the biggest obstacle our carrier has is that it lacks a catapult.
If we had one it would dramatically improve our Aircraft and i think a single engine Kaan would be equivalent to 20000lbf Kizilelma

 

[Strong AI]

IMO a downsized KAAN would get the same sensors as twin-engine KE/ANKA, and would have less payload capacity. We could pack Naval Hürjet full with EW and make fly those stealthy UCAVs right at the edge of that protection bubble created by EW Hürjet. We need a carrier capable unmanned AEW.

In 2009 an EA-18G Growler got a simulated BVR kill against a F-22 during an exercise. EW warfare is very powerful.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/ea-18g-with-f-22-kill-mark-what-is-the-effectiveness-of-growlers-jamming-system-against-f-22-and-f-35-stealth-fighters/amp/

 

[boredaf]

You think a navalised Hurjet will not be a nightmare?
Which is better; nightmarish but stealthy jet fighter or simple to manage but easily shot jet?

Don't forget that we also don't have an engine for it either, not even an engine program. Getting engines for a trainer and getting engines for a naval fighter are two completely different beasts.