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Actuallly, Gray Wolves** dont have more radical ideas than the average French nationalist. In fact, They are more open minded and peaceable than most French conservatives. **Bozkurt(Grey Wolf) is a description that comes from the Turkish myth and has a very general use. There is no organization with this name. Conceptualization over terms here shows that a witch hunt is being planned.

However, there is a different purpose here and we will see it more prominently in the coming years. The radicalization of Turkish nationalism.*
*I would like to give an information note right here ...While France prepared of the invasion of Libya, the nationalist admirals and generals(which areAll of them strongly opposed to France's intervention) were also imprisoned with calipers case simultaneously in Turkey, by FETO structure. (I'll go over this in more detail later.)

Although they appears quite low in the voting arithmetic, nationalist parties and cliques have a leading position in the ideological transformation of the country. Both in the governing side and in the opposing sides. Since the current government (akp) has no real ideological basis, its engagement in mhp policies does not lead to the growth of political Islam on the youth as described; but led to the nationalist worldview of the youth in this wing. I know there are many nationalists who criticize this young people, even many of them in this forum, but everything in life is a matter of process. On the other hand, other nationalist dynamics in the opposed wings to the Akp, ensure that the opposition understanding remains within a nationalist framework in the same way.

In other words, what will happen in the post Erdogan period is more or less clear and every smart person can see what is coming. This is what the Atlanticist structure wants to refute -what is coming-.
 
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Grey wolves were recently involved in scuffles and hunts against Armenians in our streets. They also spray painted Armenian genocide memorials. "Loup Gris" is grey wolf in French while you guys know what RTE means.

But remember,due to the Franco-Turkish dispute,there's an intensifying crackdown against Turkish organisations and networks of influence in France.


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Vergennes, I thought you were a smarter man than this... I disappointed that the Armenian troll groups that made propaganda from morning to night based on lies, or anonymous spray paint provocations shape your thoughts to this extent.
 

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Vergennes, I thought you were a smarter man than this... I disappointed that the Armenian troll groups that made propaganda from morning to night based on lies, or anonymous spray paint provocations shape your thoughts to this extent.

Remember,I am just stating the events that happened in my country without taking any side.

I can't stand Arménian and Turkish nationalists fighting each others in our country and cause public disorders.
 

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About the Bozkurt thing in France;

There are good things happening too. Turks shouldn't represent by this people. We are people of Ataturk and wisdom not this bullshit!
 

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About the Bozkurt thing in France;

There are good things happening too. Turks shouldn't represent by this people. We are people of Ataturk and wisdom not this bullshit!

Ulkucus all the way.
 

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These protests are by a group of Qaumi Madrasa students and teachers named "Hefazat-e-Islam". Qaumi Madrasas are the type of madrasa which is outside of the education system and their degree is not recognized by any company or higher education institution. Mostly orphans, street children and desperately poor rural children go there.

These guys have zero seats in Parliament, zero publications, zero influence on government, zero media sympathy.

Non-Qaumi Bangladeshis all universally look down upon them with contempt and pity, since they are so uneducated, backward and ignorant.
 

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These protests are by a group of Qaumi Madrasa students and teachers named "Hefazat-e-Islam". Qaumi Madrasas are the type of madrasa which is outside of the education system and their degree is not recognized by any company or higher education institution. Mostly orphans, street children and desperately poor rural children go there.

These guys have zero seats in Parliament, zero publications, zero influence on government, zero media sympathy.

Non-Qaumi Bangladeshis all universally look down upon them with contempt and pity, since they are so uneducated, backward and ignorant.

You are describing potentially radicals unless BD government integrates them make them a functional entity that can contribute to BD.
 

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You should be careful with what you see on twitter my friend. Nowhere it was mentioned the assailant shouted "Allah Akbar" the day of the attack.

Shortly after the attack,a suspect was arrested but was later released due to lack of evidence,so the assailant is still at large. The original investigation was launched as "attempted murder",but the terror motive isn't ruled out yet due to the context of our country.

The investigators are also looking at alleged tensions within this religious community as the victime had a notorious dispute with a believer of the same church several years ago. The person became persona non grata of the church and was convicted in 2018 of defamation against the priest by the Lyon criminal court.
 

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Is it true that france will propose legislative to punish everbody with 5 years in prison who refuse to be treated with doctor of opposite sex?
 

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You are describing potentially radicals unless BD government integrates them make them a functional entity that can contribute to BD.
They are Deobandis. The Taliban is the same ideology as them. Everyone is well aware of the threat.

The BD government and citizens don't like them but its useless to crack down on them since they only go to these madrasas because they can't afford any better. With continued economic growth it is hoped that all BD children can be given a quality education and Qaumi madrasas will disappear.

They don't pose a terror threat, because they do not teach math/science/english/IT in their madrassas but spend all the time memorizing the Quran and Hadith. As a result they don't have the minimum level of IQ required to organize a terrorist attack.

It sounds ridiculous, but its true.
 
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Is it true that france will propose legislative to punish everbody with 5 years in prison who refuse to be treated with doctor of opposite sex?

It is said anyone who puts pressure on public service agents,who refuse to be treated by a doctor of the opposite sexe or who refuse the teaching of a teacher for religious motives can be sued and sentenced to up to 5 years in prison and a fine of €75K.

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It is said anyone who puts pressure on public service agents,who refuse to be treated by a doctor of the opposite sexe or who refuse the teaching of a teacher for religious motives can be sued and sentenced to up to 5 years in prison and a fine of €75K.

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Theoretically a rape victim would not be permitted to say no to be checked by a male doctor... ?
 

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It is said anyone who puts pressure on public service agents,who refuse to be treated by a doctor of the opposite sexe or who refuse the teaching of a teacher for religious motives can be sued and sentenced to up to 5 years in prison and a fine of €75K.

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For doctors that is against all medical ethics, what they mean put pressure?
 

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Theoretically a rape victim would not be permitted to say no to be checked by a male doctor... ?

Well actually,according to French law and the medical ethical code,patients have the right to choose their doctors and the doctors must respect this choice. (In private or public healthcare)

So I don't know how it will be enforced.
 

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That move is chinese, hope it wont happen
 

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It is said anyone who puts pressure on public service agents,who refuse to be treated by a doctor of the opposite sexe or who refuse the teaching of a teacher for religious motives can be sued and sentenced to up to 5 years in prison and a fine of €75K.

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There are thousands of women who refuse to be treated by a male gynacologue not because of religion but because they feel uncomfortable otherwise.
Will they also pay a fine or get jailed?
And does that law mean that you cant refuse to participate in religious class at school if you dont want to?
 

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