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I love the smell of Russian Army in our Army.

I hope the future leaderships will follows him in openness.
Not less important is a reform in how our military manage its budget. This is urgently needed so they can minimize the misuse and embezzlement of funds to the least amount possible.
 

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Not less important is a reform in how our military manage its budget. This is urgently needed so they can minimize the misuse and embezzlement of funds to the least amount possible.
Kinda hard, their salary for private weren't exceed Jakarta minimum salary. Much of them carry side job for better food consumtion.

Only If authorities brave enough to reform such salary and facility for military from one of advanced country.

IMHO, 🇮🇩 armed forces has proper training, morale, ability, etc., yet their tools and weponery still lack behind. Not only once, many time 🇮🇩 has encounter loses from military tools failures.
 

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which one do you guys think is better though, an all in one SPAA systems (surveillance radar + Target acquisition radar + anti air weaponry either cannon or missile are in one platform) like Pantsir, Tunguska, Gepard AA, Type 87 or PGZ-09.

or a systems with multiple separate module that are placed on dedicated platform like said an mobile AA system composed of 5 vehicle :
3 vehicle are for the firing unit (equipped with cannon or either missile).
1 vehicle equipped with Surveillance radar.
1 vehicle equipped with Target Acquisition radar.
The first one.

Is that you? 😏
I don't think so.
 

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which one do you guys think is better though, an all in one SPAA systems (surveillance radar + Target acquisition radar + anti air weaponry either cannon or missile are in one platform) like Pantsir, Tunguska, Gepard AA, Type 87 or PGZ-09.

or a systems with multiple separate module that are placed on dedicated platform like said an mobile AA system composed of 5 vehicle :
3 vehicle are for the firing unit (equipped with cannon or either missile).
1 vehicle equipped with Surveillance radar.
1 vehicle equipped with Target Acquisition radar.
Different beast for different usage scenario.

For a mobile point aerial defense, all in one platform equipped with radar, IR and laser sensors and armed with both cannons and short to medium range surface to air missile is preferred.

The second option will be more suitable for a wider air defense area coverage - like to protect a field command post, for example. However, if several of the first option can also be deployed as part of a system, integrated with a command vehicle and a surveillance/target acquisition radar, you'll have the best of both worlds.
 

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Ngegombal mode activated.

Army should considering to acquire this weapon

ATGC (anti tank guided cat), tandem warhead with furmobaric capability round available

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which one do you guys think is better though, an all in one SPAA systems (surveillance radar + Target acquisition radar + anti air weaponry either cannon or missile are in one platform) like Pantsir, Tunguska, Gepard AA, Type 87 or PGZ-09.

or a systems with multiple separate module that are placed on dedicated platform like said an mobile AA system composed of 5 vehicle :
3 vehicle are for the firing unit (equipped with cannon or either missile).
1 vehicle equipped with Surveillance radar.
1 vehicle equipped with Target Acquisition radar.
I think it's depend on the user, for Army it will be more suitable with All-In-One System, their movement is far more dynamic and the System can provide protection for small mobility unit like Cavalry Platoon or a Battery of Artillery unit.

while separate modul system will offcourse be more limited in self-action but more efficient to protect both of a disperse ground area and limited movement unit like convoys and front line HQ unit, this system is suitable for the Air Force.
 

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which one do you guys think is better though, an all in one SPAA systems (surveillance radar + Target acquisition radar + anti air weaponry either cannon or missile are in one platform) like Pantsir, Tunguska, Gepard AA, Type 87 or PGZ-09.

or a systems with multiple separate module that are placed on dedicated platform like said an mobile AA system composed of 5 vehicle :
3 vehicle are for the firing unit (equipped with cannon or either missile).
1 vehicle equipped with Surveillance radar.
1 vehicle equipped with Target Acquisition radar.
Mobile version means you down grade your self and trade it with mobility.
this platform serve as mobile shield for infantry or mechanized infantry or motorized transporter against small scale attacks from air or serve as stationed air defence for small area coverage agaist small scale air attack possibility (mortar, rocket and drone) when you just captured some area, while the rest of your aggressor units charge forward you need this platform to defend those area from small scale air attack. while waiting your dedicated air defence system arrived) so, its depends with the scenario.
 

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Can Manpack and SOTM be used to detect position like in this news? If I'm not wrong, phone tower also can be used to triangulate phone position based on phone signal that's connected to nearby phone tower.
No, it is used purely for communication with satellite, no direction finding capabilities. You need the one that the Marine uses:
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Does SOTM & Manpack position can be detected like when using phone tower for communication?

Yes, basic SIGINT/ELINT/COMINT course, there are reason radio silence or Emissions Control (EMCON) is a thing in modern warfare.
 

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