Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Nilgiri]

Some pics from ongoing CORPAT:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539635819241435136

 

[Isa Khan]

So that's why, they insisted with 143 meter version

56 VLS at bow section? 6450 ton frigate with only 21 days endurance?

 

[NEKO]

Does PAL ready to build this Frigate or not? I don't want this project end up like Malaysian gowind.
When PAL successfully built PKR 10514 that's because the final design is provided by Damen and supervised by them, this time PAL want to go rogue and go ahead with their own modification because of "mUcH iNoVaTioN" "rEvOlUsI iNdUsTrI 4.0", even the 3D render is very meh.

I completely support this project but, Please PAL don't F#CK UP this project!
Is it mostly because of KEMENHAN/TNI AL/PAL that we end up with this design?

How come from this:

Become this:

Ayyyy where is the rudder man...

 

[NEKO]

Let's assume it's just a bad CG work by unmotivated unpaid overworked intern.

Or just incompetent.

Its still a significant improvement tho when they use IH 3D model and not Arleigh Burke 3D model, because last time they used Astute 3D model for submarine, they got the type right this time.

 

[Umigami]

How about those supervision from German and Turkish companies?
Why it still ended up like that?

 

[Lordimperator]

How about those supervision from German and Turkish companies?
Why it still ended up like that?

How about asking it on PAL facebook or IG

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539785309285584896

still eyeing Uboat family?

But next submarine will be build locally here right?
Scorpene all the way?

 

[chiphocks]

i guess i better repost the pict View attachment 45173


So that's why, they insisted with 143 meter version, hadeeeh....

Please replace the Otomelara behind the VLS with CIWS......
even though the Otomelara Super Rapid can act like CIWS, i don't think that it would be that good / suitable compared to Goalkeeper or Oerlikon or RIM-116

Does PAL ready to build this Frigate or not? I don't want this project end up like Malaysian gowind.
When PAL successfully built PKR 10514 that's because the final design is provided by Damen and supervised by them, this time PAL want to go rogue and go ahead with their own modification because of "mUcH iNoVaTioN" "rEvOlUsI iNdUsTrI 4.0", even the 3D render is very meh.

I completely support this project but, Please PAL don't F#CK UP this project!
Is it mostly because of KEMENHAN/TNI AL/PAL that we end up with this design?

How come from this:

Become this:

Ayyyy where is the rudder man...

Is it that difficult to see bro?

 

[Mandala]

Please replace the Otomelara behind the VLS with CIWS......
even though the Otomelara Super Rapid can act like CIWS, i don't think that it would be that good / suitable compared to Goalkeeper or Oerlikon or RIM-116


Is it that difficult to see bro?
View attachment 45225

Thats a Bow Thruster.

 

[NEKO]

Is it that difficult to see bro?
View attachment 45225

Thats a Bow Thruster.

Dang bro, but yes it still can be used to steer the ship somehow.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Dang bro, but yes it still can be used to steer the ship somehow.

its totally different functions, Dang bro its just randomly drawing. even I with my sketchup can make better rendering image.

 

[Umigami]

Dang bro, but yes it still can be used to steer the ship somehow.

Not a primary mean to steer

 

[Lordimperator]

Is it possible fitting 2 rows of mk41 modules with the elongated 5 meters?

 

[Anmdt]

How about those supervision from German and Turkish companies?
Why it still ended up like that?

Told you before there was no such supervision.
Both companies they have named were not a design but engineering solution and consultancy companies. And there was only an MoU nothing further.

 

[Anmdt]

Dang bro, but yes it still can be used to steer the ship somehow.

Ok, we have finally found the masterminds who have made this design .

 

[Madokafc]

That's pic only depict what would Indonesian vrygate look like if the navy want 143 meter version and that's not serious effort actually, while Indonesian Navy and MoD are insist to getting Babcock arrowhead 140 design and only minimal revision happened especially for the armaments config and other main system as they already started the floatation test recently using original AH140 design and push PT PAL to get the jobs started just like in the contract

 

[FPXAllen]

That's pic only depict what would Indonesian vrygate look like if the navy want 143 meter version and that's not serious effort

See? I told you guys it's a bad CG work done by unmotivated unpaid overworked intern!

For the sake of showing something just for the exhibition? Smh...

But then again, it's nothing new if that's really the case.

 

[Madokafc]

See? I told you guys it's a bad CG work done by unmotivated unpaid overworked intern!

Any leak on the armaments configuration? Is it the same as in the brochure?

You underestimated on how BUMN spending their own budget for such nitty Willy bad CGI

 

[Anmdt]

You underestimated on how BUMN spending their own budget for such nitty Willy bad CGI

See? I told you guys it's a bad CG work done by unmotivated unpaid overworked intern!

Any leak on the armaments configuration? Is it the same as in the brochure?

It is not only the render or CG.. the design, the equipments.. "come on man". I expected more from them.

 

[Lordimperator]

I expected more from

rule 1# always set expectation bar to low from ID national company