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Why don't we make Every Plaestinians slave and gift it to every Family that suffered of Horrible Holocast. That's how Humanity and Europeans can get rid of it's Sin against Poor Jews?
I have no interest in enslaving Palestinians. My interest is in cutting off my tax dollars that end up in the hands of a Hamas' military wing, which exists against my interests.

Do you want to send me some money to fund Jewish schools in Canada? I didn't think so. I don't want to send my tax money to fund a terrorist organization in the Middle East.

Pretty simple concept.
 

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Could this really set another stage to foreign volunteers joining in.

I doubt a lot of the Muslims will sit back many will go join as foreign volunteers in the fighting while Jews will most likely fight for Israel.

Its pretty easy for a lot of Muslims regardless of ethnic origins who believe in the Ummah go and fight as volunteers.

REMEMBERING THE PAST: BANGLADESHI FIGHTERS FOR PALESTINE OF THE 1980S
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YAZAN AL-SAADI
A photograph and a grave. These are two relics of a time, now mostly forgotten, of when thousands of Bangladeshis came to Lebanon in the 1980s as volunteers and fighters for the Palestinian cause. They were no less important in the struggle for Palestinian liberation than others, and their stories deserve to be remembered.

“8,000 Bangladeshi youths had volunteered to fight for the Palestine Liberation Organization,” – US Library of Congress

“There were around 1,000 to 1,500 of them. There were even some battalions that were completely Bangladeshi”- Fathi Abu al-Aradat

Kamal Mustafa Ali: the ‘heroic martyr
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On the outskirts of the Shatila Palestinian refugee camp in southern Beirut is the Palestinian Martyr Cemetery, where those who perished struggling for the Palestinian cause lay. Among the many tombstones of Palestinians who have died since the 1970s, those of a few foreigners can be spotted. A few Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Tunisians, a Russian, a Kurd, and also one of a Bangladeshi man named Kamal Mustafa Ali.

 

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Iran was never going to be "directly" involved. The USA chose those words carefully. What they were and continue to be, is one of the key financial backers of Hamas' military wing, behind the scenes. The majority of Hamas' weapons are funneled to Hamas by Iran. The remainder of them are purchased / created by using Western aid money that we stupidly send Palestine for, only to have Hamas steal it from the population. We shouldn't be sending them one nickel of aid unless 100% of it is being used for humanitarian purposes, which it is not.

If the lives of Palestinian people are simply the cost of doing business (as you sa) then people should quit bitching and moaning in this thread about Israel bombing the hell out of Gaza, because it's what Hamas intended. A significant Israeli esponse that would cost thousands of Palestinian lives. Hamas is getting what they wanted at the cost of doing business. The death of the people they represent.

As for the idea that land is worth fighting and having people die for, I've been making that argument from the very beginning. That's why Israel fights tooth and nail to protect the land gifted to them. It's also why they do CLEARLY ILLEGAL (whatever that means today) things to continue to take more land from the Palestinians. You can make the same arguments for Israel. They're willing to trade a certain number of lives to expand their territory and influence. If that's fine for Palestine to do do, why should we see it as any less ok for Israel to do. It's just the cost of doing geopolitical business, right?

I actually think you're correct in that Hamas should be fighting for its cause. I don't have a problem with them attacking a state that they see as an oppressor. Simultaneously, however, I think Israel has every right to defend themselves and I don't believe for one second in proportionality of response. Do you know who that is for? Losers of wars. Winners do what they need to do. See Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshima and D-Day and "shock and awe" in Iraq as recent examples.
Western civilization arose by plundering other peoples and tribes, by destroying their identity, and creating colonies in almost all continents and countries. You say about Islam that they behaved even worse than the Franks or the Spanish conquistadors. But historically, they did not suppress Christians and Jews, that is, the “People of the Book” according to the will of the Prophet Muhammad, but oppressed and forced only Zoroastrians, Manichaeans, Buddhists, and pagan polytheists to accept Islam. The radicalization of Islam was a new phenomenon that emerged in the XIII century under the influence of Salafi scholars such as Ibn Taymiyya. This radicalization was a response to the invasion of the Holy Land by the Frankish crusaders, that is, Catholics who were intolerant of other religions, including even their Orthodox forebears.
After the supposedly imaginary fall of colonialism, the West kept African countries in a financial grip, from where it received cheap raw materials, including using the forced labor of children as slaves, and which they processed sold at a very high price. Today, Africans, Niger, have rebelled against the tyranny of European neo-colonialists.
All Western media are controlled by Zionists, who inflate the West's losses of 100 people to the unrealistically gigantic figures of 1000% and at the same time hush up the crimes of European colonialists, racists, liberals, Nazis and other philosophies to small numbers or hush up and give half-truths and half-lies, creating myths, that is, reduce their crimes from 100% to 0 or 10%.
The USSR was the first to actively fight Western hegemony. From the 1940s to the 1970s, Iran was a puppet of the West, and China was a predominantly agrarian, regional state.
How much do Latin American countries like the US, which the US uses as its new colony?
 

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Western civilization arose by plundering other peoples and tribes, by destroying their identity, and creating colonies in almost all continents and countries. You say about Islam that they behaved even worse than the Franks or the Spanish conquistadors. But historically, they did not suppress Christians and Jews, that is, the “People of the Book” according to the will of the Prophet Muhammad, but oppressed and forced only Zoroastrians, Manichaeans, Buddhists, and pagan polytheists to accept Islam. The radicalization of Islam was a new phenomenon that emerged in the XIII century under the influence of Salafi scholars such as Ibn Taymiyya. This radicalization was a response to the invasion of the Holy Land by the Frankish crusaders, that is, Catholics who were intolerant of other religions, including even their Orthodox forebears.
After the supposedly imaginary fall of colonialism, the West kept African countries in a financial grip, from where it received cheap raw materials, including using the forced labor of children as slaves, and which they processed sold at a very high price. Today, Africans, Niger, have rebelled against the tyranny of European neo-colonialists.
All Western media are controlled by Zionists, who inflate the West's losses of 100 people to the unrealistically gigantic figures of 1000% and at the same time hush up the crimes of European colonialists, racists, liberals, Nazis and other philosophies to small numbers or hush up and give half-truths and half-lies, creating myths, that is, reduce their crimes from 100% to 0 or 10%.
The USSR was the first to actively fight Western hegemony. From the 1940s to the 1970s, Iran was a puppet of the West, and China was a predominantly agrarian, regional state.
How much do Latin American countries like the US, which the US uses as its new colony?
There have to be losers in the world for their to be winners. Now we're winning, but one day we'll be losing. That's simply the cycle of things.

Our (the West's) methods of rising to power were different from the ancient civilizations. We re-shaped the way the world worked, in our favour. The next great world leader / alliance will do the same. It's extremely rare for a new power to emerge in the world by playing "the game" by the rules that exist under the dominant powers of the time. Of course that's true because the rules are set up to protect the power of those who wield it.

Countries like Russia are just ass mad that their once great empire is crumbling from beneath them because the Western alliance (essentially NATO) changed the rules of the game and stomped the Soviet Union out, economically. Maybe China will build an alliance that does the sane to us. If they do, kudos to them for playing the game better than we do.

Don't hate the playa', hate the game!
 
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Unless Hamas takes over a nuclear power plant and causes a meltdown like Chernobil this won’t change much for Palestine. Because of the wests support and mindset. It’ll change nothing yet accelerate the death of Palestina.
 

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Unless Hamas takes over a nuclear power plant and causes a meltdown like Chernobil this won’t change much for Palestine. Because of the wests support and mindset. It’ll change nothing yet accelerate the death of Palestina.
They have very high birth rate and many people.Finally Arabs will more than Chinese in the world.
 

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"If the bombing of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off gas supplies to the world," said Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani

The Qatari authorities are threatening to create a global gas shortage as part of their support for Palestine.

Now it's obvious Russian and Iranian national interests.
 

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