Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[Iskander]

Prior Israel was attacked on several fronts on 7 Oct no one in right wing government was talking about any expansion. After Israel created small (few km) military buffer zones. That's it.

You're telling a fairy tale. Although, you don't start a fairy tale in the middle

In the beginning, almost 80 years ago, two states were created in Palestine, then under British jurisdiction: the Jewish state of Israel and the Arab state of Palestine. Israel received a territory of 14,000 square kilometers, and Palestine about 11,000.

But today Israel owns approximately 22,000 or already 28,000 square kilometers, so the Arabs now have less territory.

And what about your settlements in the West Bank?

And where have the Arabs gone? Hundreds of thousands of refugees. Now there are millions! It is from there that organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas, which you call terrorists, came.

And what about the Syrian Golan Heights?

But you are already declaring Mount Hermon a buffer zone, solely for the sake of Israel's security, of course. The same is now happening in southern Lebanon.
But security cannot be one-sided; it can only be mutual, and when one side fails to consider the interests of its neighbors, the result is endless wars.

At the beginning of your current war with Iran, I reread your history, mostly about wars: the destruction of the Temple; its second destruction; the Babylonian captivity; their liberation from captivity by the Persian Shah Cyrus the Great; your wars with the Roman Empire; the Jewish exodus from Israel; the construction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount, and so on, right up until October 7, 2023.

All of this is, of course, tragic. But for 80 years now, the Palestinians have been experiencing the same tragedy as a result of your endless wars.

At the same time, I must say that I am neutral toward both Arabs and Jews.

Israelis talk about security more than anyone else. There are reasons for this, of course. But some of your military operations indicate that you're no longer fighting for Israel's security, but are seeking to expand the occupation to neighboring countries.
Iran is 1,000 kilometers away, and now, with the support of the United States, you're at war with Iran, even bombing Iranian ports on the Caspian Sea! And all this solely for the sake of Israel's security.

Do you even believe this fairy tale?

 

[Corvus]

Ur question included 2 false narratives:

1) There is unconditional US support of Israel.

Never was such thing and before 1967 US position was rather anti Israel than pro Israel.

2) Israel can't survive without it.

Israel survived before 1967 when was much weaker than now and united Arab front was supported by superpower USSR.

You are still not answering the question.

Forget about my narrative and just tell me. What is Israel's strategy when you have a US government that refuses to give any military aid and protection to Israel?

 

[500]

You are still not answering the question.

Forget about my narrative and just tell me. What is Israel's strategy when you have a US government that refuses to give any military aid and protection to Israel?

Israel GDP is over 700 bln, US aid - 3.8 bln. About half percent.

Plus that aid must be spent in US, while Israel could spend its money inside Israel boosting its industries.

 

[Corvus]

Israel GDP is over 700 bln, US aid - 3.8 bln. About half percent.

Plus that aid must be spent in US, while Israel could spend its money inside Israel boosting its industries.

Let’s set aside your reduction attempt of decades of American security support for Israel to just a few billion dollars and ask the real question again:

When the United States completely cuts off its security support, are you planning to survive simply by boosting your industry?

 

[500]

You're telling a fairy tale. Although, you don't start a fairy tale in the middle

In the beginning, almost 80 years ago, two states were created in Palestine, then under British jurisdiction: the Jewish state of Israel and the Arab state of Palestine. Israel received a territory of 14,000 square kilometers, and Palestine about 11,000.

But today Israel owns approximately 22,000 or already 28,000 square kilometers, so the Arabs now have less territory.

And what about your settlements in the West Bank?

And where have the Arabs gone? Hundreds of thousands of refugees. Now there are millions! It is from there that organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas, which you call terrorists, came.

And what about the Syrian Golan Heights?

But you are already declaring Mount Hermon a buffer zone, solely for the sake of Israel's security, of course. The same is now happening in southern Lebanon.
But security cannot be one-sided; it can only be mutual, and when one side fails to consider the interests of its neighbors, the result is endless wars.

At the beginning of your current war with Iran, I reread your history, mostly about wars: the destruction of the Temple; its second destruction; the Babylonian captivity; their liberation from captivity by the Persian Shah Cyrus the Great; your wars with the Roman Empire; the Jewish exodus from Israel; the construction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount, and so on, right up until October 7, 2023.

All of this is, of course, tragic. But for 80 years now, the Palestinians have been experiencing the same tragedy as a result of your endless wars.

At the same time, I must say that I am neutral toward both Arabs and Jews.

Israelis talk about security more than anyone else. There are reasons for this, of course. But some of your military operations indicate that you're no longer fighting for Israel's security, but are seeking to expand the occupation to neighboring countries.
Iran is 1,000 kilometers away, and now, with the support of the United States, you're at war with Iran, even bombing Iranian ports on the Caspian Sea! And all this solely for the sake of Israel's security.

Do you even believe this fairy tale?

Funny that when the first right wing government of Israel came to power in 1977 Israel controlled Sinai peninsula, which is about 3 times more land area than Israel itself and right wing government gave it for peace.

Since then Israel also gave to Palestinians 100% of Gaza strip and 40% of West Bank.

Israel offered Golan heights to Syria for peace, but they refused.
Israel offered Palestinians 97% of West Bank + free passage from Gaza to West bank throught Israeli territory. They refused.

So Israel was shrinking. And only after 7 Oct after brutal attack on many fronts Israel took some small buffer zones.

If Hamas and Hezbollah disarm (as required per UN, governments of Lebanon and Palestine) , Israel will give up these buffer zones. But we all know that they will never disarm.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Prior Israel was attacked on several fronts on 7 Oct no one in right wing government was talking about any expansion. After Israel created small (few km) military buffer zones. That's it.

We created buffer zones in Syria. No civilians were harmed.
Your soldiers brag about targeting children, SAying prisoners of all ages, and demolishing vital infrastructure while starving an entire population.
They film themselves doing it and wear dead women's underwear and steal the toys.

 

[500]

Let’s set aside your reduction attempt of decades of American security support for Israel to just a few billion dollars and ask the real question again:

When the United States completely cuts off its security support, are you planning to survive simply by boosting your industry?

I already told u: there is nothing critical about US aid to Israel and Israel plans to end it in near future.

BTW Israel by its own initiative ended the economic aid from the US 25 years ago.

Also US military is highly interested in cooperation with Israel. No one has more SEAD experience than Israel, urban warfare, counter insurgency warfare. anti missile defence...

 

[500]

We created buffer zones in Syria. No civilians were harmed.
Your soldiers brag about targeting children, SAying prisoners of all ages, and demolishing vital infrastructure while starving an entire population.
They film themselves doing it and wear dead women's underwear and steal the toys.

Are u sure that no civilians were harmed during seize of Afrin and al Bab?

No civilians were harmed when Israel created buffer zone in Syria. On contrary Israel prevented the slaughter of Druze.

 

[Corvus]

I already told u: there is nothing critical about US aid to Israel and Israel plans to end it in near future.

BTW Israel by its own initiative ended the economic aid from the US 25 years ago.

Also US military is highly interested in cooperation with Israel. No one has more SEAD experience than Israel, urban warfare, counter insurgency warfare. anti missile defence...

Sure buddy, you can certainly deal with all the surrounding enemies without American security umbrella.

You will do just fine without American radars and AA systems stationed all around the Middle East. You don't actually need aircraft carrier groups that are protecting your ass 24/7. You will be extremely ok without unlimited flux of interceptor missiles. Your airforce is totally independent as you produce your own jets as well.

Anyways, you obviously don't have a plan for a scenario without America. That gives me hope for the future.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Are u sure that no civilians were harmed during seize of Afrin and al Bab?

No civilians were harmed when Israel created buffer zone in Syria. On contrary Israel prevented the slaughter of Druze.

Ugh! There's no point discussing with you.
Just stop lying!