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When do people see main stream western media reporting Kashmir 24/7 like they are doing about Xinjiang? When do they call this Kashmir a genocide?
So developing Xinjiang into a first world region and giving people a good life is "genocide" , and killing , torturing and beating people in Kashmir is the world biggest democracy...
 

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When do people see main stream western media reporting Kashmir 24/7 like they are doing about Xinjiang? When do they call this Kashmir a genocide?
So developing Xinjiang into a first world region and giving people a good life is "genocide" , and killing , torturing and beating people in Kashmir is the world biggest democracy...
They will if and when it actually happens. Till then they will accurately report the suppression of rights and Internet cuts in the Union Territory of Kashmir.
 

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They will if and when it actually happens. Till then they will accurately report the suppression of rights and Internet cuts in the Union Territory of Kashmir.
They do report sometimes about Kashmir, but comparing to their 24/7 ranting about Xinjiang, Kashmir stories are like being buried in the oceans and they rarely call what happen in Kashmir a "genocide" or " crime agaisnt humanity".
 

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Ok....

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Lastly this forum was made as a place for professional discussion where posters can partake in proper discourse. If grudges are carried forward here or agendas are made then one only has himself to blame.


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Srinagar: An officer of the Kashmir Administrative Service (KAS) has alleged that Kashmiri and Muslim officers have been deliberately sidelined or kept away from key positions since June 2018, when Mehbooba Mufti, the last chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir, lost power.
“This process picked up pace when the Union government abrogated Article 370 last year,” said the KAS officer who serves at the Civil Secretariat, Srinagar, on the condition of anonymity.

According to the officer, after August 5, 2019, when the Union government stripped J&K of its special status and split the erstwhile state into two union territories (UT), local Muslim officers disappeared from key positions in the secretariat.
“Today when you go into the secretariat you find non-Kashmiris and non-Muslims holding important meetings, making decisions and keeping the Muslim and Kashmiri officers away,” the officer added.

Once a state, J&K is now a Muslim-majority union territory. According to the 2011 census, Muslims constitute 68.31% of J&K’s total population of 12.5 million people and Hindus comprise 28.43%. Muslims form the majority in 17 out of the 20 districts of J&K, yet the number of local officers in the UT’s administrative services is very low.



For example, Lieutenant Governor Manoj Sinha’s secretariat does not have even a single Muslim officer. All the 13 officers in the Raj Bhavan family (members of the LG’s secretariat) are non-Muslims and non-Kashmiris. Sinha is a former Union minister and senior BJP leader from Uttar Pradesh.
Similarly, there are no Muslim officers among the senior staff of chief secretary B.V.R. Subrahmanyam, director-general of police (DGP) Dilbagh Singh and Chief Justice Gita Mittal.

Of the four advisers to LG Sinha, two are Muslims, but they do not have roots in Kashmir Valley. Not one of the divisional commissioners or the police chiefs of J&K is a Muslim or even from the Kashmir Valley.

The last Muslim DGP in J&K was Ghulam Jeelani Pandit, who retired in December 1989. The last Kashmiri Muslim chief secretary was Mohammad Iqbal Khandey, who retired in 2015. Only two Kashmiri Muslims have served as DGP in Kashmir’s history.

Where are the locals?
On February 6 this year, the Union government abolished the J&K state cadre of the civil services and made it part of the Arunachal Pradesh, Goa and Mizoram union territories.

Many senior Indian Administrative Service (IAS) and KAS officers believe that this may demotivate Kashmiri candidates from appearing in the competitive exams for the civil services, with the result that Kashmiris may completely disappear from the administration.
The number of local officers in the IAS state cadre of J&K has seldom been high. For example, of the 58 IAS officers who had formed the state cadre of the erstwhile state of J&K in 2018-19, only seven had been Kashmiri Muslims. These included Dr Shah Faesal, who had resigned from the service in January 2019, bringing down the number to six.
Also read: J&K’s New Domicile Order: Disenfranchising Kashmiris, One Step at a Time
Today, of the 66 top bureaucrats in J&K, including those from the civil secretariat and the LG’s secretariat, 38 are from other states.
At the civil secretariat, key departments such as home, power, finance, revenue, health and environment are headed by non-Muslim officers.
The only bureaucrat from Kashmir currently in charge of a vital department is Asgar Hassan Samoon, principal secretary for school education.
According to J&K’s general administration department, there are currently five commissioner secretaries, of whom only two are Muslims. There are eight principal secretaries, but only one is Muslim. The commissioners of finance, revenue, health and medical education are all non-Muslims. Thus, of these 16 officers, only three are Muslim. And in the J&K UT at this time, of the 66 top bureaucrats, 38 are from other Indian states.
According to figures available with the J&K government, of the 20 districts of J&K, nine have Muslim deputy commissioners, but only four of them are from the Kashmir Valley.
Meanwhile, in the high court, the last Kashmiri to hold the position of chief justice was Bashir Ahmed Khan in 2007. At present, of the 12 sitting judges at the J&K high court, only two are Muslims. “This is the first time in my career of 15 years that I have seen only two Muslim judges here,” a senior advocate told The Wire. “The J&K high court should have a 50-50 ratio of Muslim and non-Muslim judges,” he added.

Of the seven deputy inspectors-general of police in J&K, two are Muslim but none are from J&K. J&K has 23 police districts, seven of which have Muslim superintendents of police (SSPs), of whom only three are from the Kashmir Valley.
And in June 2019, the then governor’s administration had sacked J&K Bank’s Muslim chairman Parvez Ahmed about four months before the end of his term, replacing him with R.K. Chibber, a Hindu. Ahmed had been accused of nepotism, financial irregularities and illegal appointments in the bank, but rejected all the accusations.
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In an exclusive interview with The Wire on September 23, former chief minister of J&K Dr Farooq Abdullah, today a member of parliament from Srinagar constituency, had said: “Today, you have the LG who is Hindu, the DG and the two IGs are Hindus. But during our time we had representation from both communities. When we were in power – be it my father, me, my son, Mufti Sahab or others – Hindus and Muslims were equally distributed in the bureaucracy. Today, that balance is not there. There is a total wipeout. Do you think only one community has the brains and the other community does not have any brains at all?”
Also read: Where Are the Jobs the Centre Promised J&K After Revoking Article 370?
Six months ago, social media in Kashmir trended a photograph released by the office of former J&K LG Girish Chandra Murmu. The photo depicted Murmu holding a meeting with a battery of bureaucrats. Of the 19 officials in the photo, there was just one local Muslim officer – Farooq Ahmad Lone, a former IAS officer. This photograph, according to Kashmiri social media users, showed that the Union government was deliberately making demographic changes in the predominantly Muslim Kashmir Valley.
Last week, senior BJP leader Muhammad Maqbool War even claimed that in coming days, all the posts in the UT’s civil and police administration would be held by BJP supporters. He made this claim in a party convention in the Sumbal area of North Kashmir’s Bandipora district.
However, Ashok Koul, the BJP’s general secretary in J&K, denied that his party had any plan to change the demography of J&K. “The LG of J&K has clearly said that he will bring good officers in the administration and there is no mention of Muslim or Hindu. Go and see – you will find Muslim commissioner secretaries in the administration,” said Koul.

Irfan Amin Malik is a Srinagar-based reporter.


Wut? All of them are Muslims here in KAS, but then according to Pakistanis The Wire is the favourite “unbiased” news media of India. The Wire has more legal complaints for fake news than compliments for journalism.
 
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The fact that Polio is still rampant in PoK is testimony to the fact that Pakistan seems to care little about this part of India it has illegally occupied. Polio has been by and large eradicated in other parts of India - obviously PoK is an unfortunate exception.
In Kashmir polio is eradicated, India vaccinated us but Pakistanis remain crying claiming we are oppressed in India. The fact that the terrorists they sent to kill us (Kashmiri Hindus) in Indian Kashmir should be discussed, we Kashmiri Hindus are also Kashmiri but Pakistan will never raise their voice for us. And this radical mindset is slowly eating their country.
 

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In Kashmir polio is eradicated, India vaccinated us but Pakistanis remain crying claiming we are oppressed in India. The fact that the terrorists they sent to kill us (Kashmiri Hindus) in Indian Kashmir should be discussed, we Kashmiri Hindus are also Kashmiri but Pakistan will never raise their voice for us. And this radical mindset is slowly eating their country.
Were there any Hindu Pandits in PoK? There don't seem to be any now even though Sharada Peeth happens to be in PoK.
 
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Kashmir stories are like being buried in the oceans and they rarely call what happen in Kashmir a "genocide" or " crime agaisnt humanity".
Genocide? In your GT dreams only. If Pakistan would not have sent terrorists since 1990 then nothing of this sord would’ve been happening. Do you even know the meaning of Genocide? The one that happened in Tiananmen Square can be classified as one.

Genocide happened to us Kashmiri Hindus in Kashmir, we were killed in targeted attacks.
And if you feel posting pictures of killed Insurgents on PDF and their family mourning is a picture of human rights violation then I’m happy with what Indian army does.

I live in Kashmir hence I know better than you.
 
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Genocide? In your GT dreams only. If Pakistan would not have sent terrorists since 1990 then nothing of this sord would’ve been happening. Do you even know the meaning of Genocide? The one that happened in Tiananmen Square can be classified as one.

Genocide happened to us Kashmiri Hindus in Kashmir, we were killed in targeted attacks.
And if you feel posting pictures of killed Insurgents on PDF and their family mourning is a picture of human rights violation then I’m happy with Indian army does.

I live in Kashmir hence I know better than you.
Relax - @beijingwalker knows that it is his country that has recently been sanctioned for genocide.
 

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Pakistan doesn’t have the capability to fight India no matter how big they proclaim themselves on PDF getting happy doing proxy warfare against India.

Kashmir is a lost case for them and Kashmir is digging Pakistan’s own grave, Pakistani economy’s condition is so worse that even Indian Kashmir’s Health budget is more than the Pakistani health budget combined.
Seriously? The population of the Kashmir UT must 5 million tops. Their health budget is more than Pakistan's with its 250 millon people?
 

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Anyhow i think there has been enough trolling. Any more troll posts will lead to severe actions and this is Kashmir Pakistan focus. Terms like Occupied for Pakistan are not welcome here. If you wish to use such terminology then by all means you can use them for your Indian focus section thread
 

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Indian members should know by now the system here and to not troll.

Next time you can get a thread ban.
 

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When do people see main stream western media reporting Kashmir 24/7 like they are doing about Xinjiang? When do they call this Kashmir a genocide?
So developing Xinjiang into a first world region and giving people a good life is "genocide" , and killing , torturing and beating people in Kashmir is the world biggest democracy...

There was something close to a genocide, that was thankfully averted. Averted because they left Kashmir in fear. This happened in sometime in the early 1990s. Kashmiri Hindus were driven away and killed in the Valley.

And like you rightly said, Indian media and international media does not pay much attention to it. Maybe you should talk more about it in your Chinese forums?

You can read about it here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus

So when the Han actually leave Xinjiang due to being killed by the Uighur, you can compare the 2 situations.
 
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There was something close to a genocide, that was thankfully averted. Averted because they left Kashmir in fear. This happened in sometime in the early 1990s. Kashmiri Hindus were driven away and killed in the Valley.

And like you rightly said, Indian media and international media does not pay much attention to it. Maybe you should talk more about it in your Chinese forums?

You can read about it here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus

So when the Han actually leave Xinjiang due to being killed by the Uighur, you can compare the 2 situations.
Leave it man, they point fingers on others but don’t look inside.
 

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UK lawmakers praise outgoing Pakistani Kashmir leader​

Parliamentarians describe president’s rule as 'golden era' for cause of Kashmir

UK lawmakers praise outgoing Pakistani Kashmir leader

2021-08-30 06:17:41

LONDON (AA) - British parliamentarians on Sunday praised the outgoing president of the Pakistan-administered Kashmir region, officially known as Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJ&K).

President Masood Khan's tenure was described by the UK's highest legislative body as “productive” and a “golden era” for the cause of Kashmir on the international stage. It also highlighted the significant efforts undertaken by Khan in raising human rights issues in the Indian occupied territory.

“For the first time in the history of AJ&K, after the end of the era of the highest government official, world political leaders have called his tenure ' productive' through their separate video messages and hailed his contributions for Kashmiris' political rights widely,” prominent human rights group Tehreek-e-Kashmir said in a statement.

“The British parliamentarians paid tribute to the former AJ&K President Khan for highlighting the Kashmir issue at the international level and for maintaining a constant liaison with the institutions and parliaments across the globe,” the group added.

Prominent members of the UK parliament from both sides of the political divide sent messages of thanks and support to Khan, who will be ending his presidency of the territory after five years at the helm. Prior to his presidency, Khan was a seasoned diplomat to the UN and its various institutions in Switzerland.

James Daly, a Tory MP and member of the Conservative Friends of Kashmir said: “I've had the honor of meeting his excellency on many occasions, including in Kashmir. I think he is a great man who stood up against human rights abuses that are currently being suffered by the people of Kashmir, and he will be greatly missed.”


The Conservative Friends of Kashmir, a group within the Conservative Party, campaigns for the preservation of human rights and self-determination for the occupied territory of Kashmir.

Similarly, Rebecca Long-Bailey, a prominent member of the opposition Labour Party and a former shadow minister, also expressed her gratitude for Khan's endearing work.

“On behalf of the Salford and Eccles Kashmiri community, I wanted to send our warmest wishes to Sardar Masood Khan, the outgoing president of Azad Jammu and Kashmir. He was a humble man who fought tirelessly for self-determination in the Kashmir region, and I know all those around him and all those that will come afterwards will continue that fight to promote human rights and peace in the region,” Long-Bailey said in a video message.

Other prominent lawmakers from the Labour and Tory parties including Jess Phillips, Afzal Khan and Kate Hollern as well as a former UK member of the European Parliament, Phil Bennion, also sent out of messages of praise, support and thanks to the outgoing president, acknowledging the hard work he put in during his presidency of the historically turbulent region.

 

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