TR Land Vehicle Programs

[Sanchez]

More ZAHA/MAV and Pars Scouts to be ordered during SAHA. I wonder if they will order more IFV variant Scouts for special forces maybe.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051385723534626919

 

[Pokemonte13]

More ZAHA/MAV and Pars Scouts to be ordered during SAHA. I wonder if they will order more IFV variant Scouts for special forces maybe.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051385723534626919

Pars Izci slowly becoming our patria 6x6 alternative nice. Alway thought we needed a lighter apc

 

[Strong AI]

The 100th vehicle delivery ceremony under the ÖMTTZA program was held with the participation of T.C. Defense Industry Deputy President Mustafa Şeker and representatives from the Gendarmerie and Land Forces Command representing the Turkish Armed Forces Needs Authority.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051645786912362770

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051998035907846291

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051998035907846291

337 more Scouts to be incurred for land forces. We should learn details in the coming days.

 

[Pokemonte13]

337 more Scouts to be incurred for land forces. We should learn details in the coming days.

And Faz 2 for Zaha

 

[Sanchez]

And Faz 2 for Zaha

Current number(27?) was not even enough for the previous single brigade; so this was always expected. Now we have 2+1.

 

[Strong AI]

Modernized Leo2A4 tanks will begin to be delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command in the second half of this year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2052128082564132898

 

[boredaf]

I can't fucking believe they released this information about E-ZPT of their own volition.

150 km (battery) / 650 km (generator) range, 20%–80% fast charging: 1.5 hours,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2012480228824600879

MKE E-ZPT ilk kez sergilendi

Türkiye’nin ilk Elektrikli Zırhlı Personel Taşıyıcısı (E-ZPT), İstanbul Fuar Merkezi’nde ilk kez görücüye çıktı.

www.defenceturk.net

So, without a generator it has 1/3 range of an M113, and to have better range it needs a generator, negating all of its supposed benefits. And that charging time is abysmal for an armoured vehicle that might have to leave at a moments notice.

 

[Bogeyman]

I can't fucking believe they released this information about E-ZPT of their own volition.

150 km (battery) / 650 km (generator) range, 20%–80% fast charging: 1.5 hours,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2012480228824600879

MKE E-ZPT ilk kez sergilendi

Türkiye’nin ilk Elektrikli Zırhlı Personel Taşıyıcısı (E-ZPT), İstanbul Fuar Merkezi’nde ilk kez görücüye çıktı.

www.defenceturk.net

So, without a generator it has 1/3 range of an M113, and to have better range it needs a generator, negating all of its supposed benefits. And that charging time is abysmal for an armoured vehicle that might have to leave at a moments notice.

Electric motors require much less maintenance than internal combustion engines. There are no oil problems. They don't require a gearbox, etc.

 

[boredaf]

Electric motors require much less maintenance than internal combustion engines. There are no oil problems. They don't require a gearbox, etc.

Not bloody worth it if you ask me with the hilariously short range and long charging time.

 

[Bogeyman]

Not bloody worth it if you ask me with the hilariously short range and long charging time.

The ability to transport APCs using tank carrier vehicles solves the problem behind the front lines. On the front lines, just as we send tankers behind the tanks for fuel logistics, we will send generators for the electric motorized APCs.

 

[boredaf]

The ability to transport APCs using tank carrier vehicles solves the problem behind the front lines. On the front lines, just as we send tankers behind the tanks for fuel logistics, we will send generators for the electric motorized APCs.

So, we are going to unnecessarily increase the logistical and maintenance footprint on the frontline with generators, which will create their own noise and heat btw, and still carry fuel anyway for those generators. And limited range without generators just means they either have very limited operational time and very long down time compared to simply fuelling an APC. Or put generators in and still create heat and noise we are supposed to be solving anyway. And btw, it's not like drones are using heat seeker or "lock on" to sounds or something, it still is an APC that looks like an APC.

 

[Bogeyman]

So, we are going to unnecessarily increase the logistical and maintenance footprint on the frontline with generators, which will create their own noise and heat btw, and still carry fuel anyway for those generators. And limited range without generators just means they either have very limited operational time and very long down time compared to simply fuelling an APC. Or put generators in and still create heat and noise we are supposed to be solving anyway. And btw, it's not like drones are using heat seeker or "lock on" to sounds or something, it still is an APC that looks like an APC.

https://www.isbirelektrik.com.tr/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/taktik-sessiz-kabinli-jenerator.pdf

Electronic warfare systems also use the same generators.

Noise Level 64 dB (7 m) Low Thermal Signature Low Exhaust Temperature, Low Thermal Signature

You are clearly underestimating military-grade generators.