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Turkey reiterates its continued support to Libyan Government​

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Turkey reiterates its continued support to Libyan Government

Turkey’s deputy foreign minister reiterated Ankara's continued support on Nov. 12 for the Libyan Government National Unity and the political process.


Sedat Önal spoke at an International Conference on Libya in Paris that was co-chaired by France, Germany and Italy. He said it was very important that Libyans joined the group.


"We, as Turkey, are determined to support Libya in the future as well," he said, noting the common history and belief between Turkey and Libya.

He also said to ensure sustainable peace and stability in the region, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC)'s inherent sovereign rights need to be recognized.

Three priority areas in Libya are ensuring national unity and internal reconciliation supporting the National Unity Government and the issue of the elections, Önal added.

Turkey's opinion taken into consideration

According to information from diplomatic sources, in the declaration published at the end of the conference, some improvements were made by taking into account the opinions and suggestions of Turkey.


It was added to the final declaration that the withdrawal of foreign fighters, mercenaries and foreign forces in Libya would be carried out gradually.

But because some elements that Ankara wanted to see were not clearly included in the text on the status of foreign powers, Turkey made reservations.


While Turkey has only discussed the issues regarding the military consultancy and training support it provided in line with Libya's demand and needs on the basis of a bilateral agreement, it maintained it will deal with the issue, which directly concerns the stability of Libya - not third parties - but with the new government to be formed after the elections.

Despite Turkey's objections, in the light of the participation of countries at the conference such as the Greek Cypriot Administration and Greece, Turkey attended with a delegation headed by Önal.

On the occasion of his Paris visit, the Turkish deputy minister met with Abdul Hamid Dbeibeh, Libya’s interim premier, Rosemary DiCarlo, the U.N.'s top official for political and peacebuilding affairs, UN Special Envoy on Libya Jan Kubis and the French President's National Security Advisor Emmanuel Bonne.

 

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Son of former Libyan leader Gaddafi to run for president​

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi has registered as a presidential candidate for the December 24 poll, the electoral commission says.

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While Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi is likely to play on nostalgia for the era before the 2011 uprising that swept his father from power, analysts say he may not be a front runner [File: Ben Curtis/AP Photo]

Published On 14 Nov 2021
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Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, son of Libya’s former leader Muammar Gaddafi, has registered as a presidential candidate for the country’s December election, an official from the electoral commission said.

“Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi submitted … his candidacy for the presidential election to the High National Electoral Commission office in the [southern] city of Sebha,” a statement by the commission said on Sunday.

Gaddafi is one of the most prominent figures expected to run for president – a list that also includes renegade eastern commander Khalifa Haftar, Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibah and parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh.

Photographs distributed on social media showed Gaddafi, with a grey beard and wearing glasses and a traditional brown robe and turban, signing documents at the registration centre in the southern town of Sebha on Sunday.


Despite the public backing of most Libyan factions and foreign powers for elections on December 24, the vote is still in doubt as rival entities squabble over the rules and schedule.

A major conference in Paris on Friday agreed to sanction those who disrupt or prevent the vote, but there is still no agreement on rules to govern who should be able to run.

The elections are envisaged as a key moment in a United Nations-backed peace process to end a decade of violent chaos that has drawn in regional powers since the 2011 NATO-backed uprising against Muammar Gaddafi.

Wrangling over the election threatens to unravel the wider peace process, which also includes efforts to unify long-divided state institutions and to pull out foreign mercenaries who remain entrenched along front lines despite a ceasefire.


The Gaddafi era is still remembered by many Libyans as one of harsh autocracy, while Saif al-Islam Gaddafi and other former regime figures have been out of power for so long, they may find it difficult to mobilise as much support as major rivals.

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi remains something of a cypher to many Libyans, having spent the past decade out of public sight since his capture in 2011 by fighters from the mountain region of Zintan.

He gave an interview to the New York Times earlier this year but has not yet made any public appearance speaking directly to Libyans.
Complicating his presidential ambitions, Gaddafi was tried in absentia in 2015 by a Tripoli court at which he appeared via videolink from Zintan. He was sentenced him to death for war crimes, including the killing of protesters during the uprising a decade ago, but was later pardoned. He is also wanted by the International Criminal Court for alleged crimes against humanity.

Ibrahim Fraihat, an associate professor of conflict resolution at the Doha Institute, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi “has some support among the former regime loyalists, and also within certain tribal forces”.

“I don’t think he has any chance of winning this election, I don’t think he himself thinks that he has a chance,” Fraihat added. “For him, this is a political message that he’s trying to send; that he’s back at the political scene and part of the game and also that he can run in the election and he’s ignoring the International Criminal Court’s request for him to be handed over.”

Educated at the London School of Economics and a fluent English speaker, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi was once seen by many governments as the acceptable, Western-friendly face of Libya, and a possible heir apparent.

But when the uprising broke out in 2011 against Muammar Gaddafi’s long rule, Saif al-Islam immediately chose family and clan loyalties over his many friendships in the West, telling Reuters television: “We fight here in Libya; we die here in Libya.”

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If I'm not wrong Sirte is where Ghaddafi came from right, so that area is perhaps still pro Ghaddafi. Which means the votes on Haftars side will get split, if Tripoli still remembers the atrocities then they may vote on government or Ghaddafi.
 

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Son of former Libyan leader Gaddafi to run for president​

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi has registered as a presidential candidate for the December 24 poll, the electoral commission says.

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While Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi is likely to play on nostalgia for the era before the 2011 uprising that swept his father from power, analysts say he may not be a front runner [File: Ben Curtis/AP Photo]

Published On 14 Nov 2021
Updated:
9 minutes ago

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, son of Libya’s former leader Muammar Gaddafi, has registered as a presidential candidate for the country’s December election, an official from the electoral commission said.

“Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi submitted … his candidacy for the presidential election to the High National Electoral Commission office in the [southern] city of Sebha,” a statement by the commission said on Sunday.

Gaddafi is one of the most prominent figures expected to run for president – a list that also includes renegade eastern commander Khalifa Haftar, Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibah and parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh.

Photographs distributed on social media showed Gaddafi, with a grey beard and wearing glasses and a traditional brown robe and turban, signing documents at the registration centre in the southern town of Sebha on Sunday.


Despite the public backing of most Libyan factions and foreign powers for elections on December 24, the vote is still in doubt as rival entities squabble over the rules and schedule.

A major conference in Paris on Friday agreed to sanction those who disrupt or prevent the vote, but there is still no agreement on rules to govern who should be able to run.

The elections are envisaged as a key moment in a United Nations-backed peace process to end a decade of violent chaos that has drawn in regional powers since the 2011 NATO-backed uprising against Muammar Gaddafi.

Wrangling over the election threatens to unravel the wider peace process, which also includes efforts to unify long-divided state institutions and to pull out foreign mercenaries who remain entrenched along front lines despite a ceasefire.


The Gaddafi era is still remembered by many Libyans as one of harsh autocracy, while Saif al-Islam Gaddafi and other former regime figures have been out of power for so long, they may find it difficult to mobilise as much support as major rivals.

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi remains something of a cypher to many Libyans, having spent the past decade out of public sight since his capture in 2011 by fighters from the mountain region of Zintan.

He gave an interview to the New York Times earlier this year but has not yet made any public appearance speaking directly to Libyans.
Complicating his presidential ambitions, Gaddafi was tried in absentia in 2015 by a Tripoli court at which he appeared via videolink from Zintan. He was sentenced him to death for war crimes, including the killing of protesters during the uprising a decade ago, but was later pardoned. He is also wanted by the International Criminal Court for alleged crimes against humanity.

Ibrahim Fraihat, an associate professor of conflict resolution at the Doha Institute, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi “has some support among the former regime loyalists, and also within certain tribal forces”.

“I don’t think he has any chance of winning this election, I don’t think he himself thinks that he has a chance,” Fraihat added. “For him, this is a political message that he’s trying to send; that he’s back at the political scene and part of the game and also that he can run in the election and he’s ignoring the International Criminal Court’s request for him to be handed over.”

Educated at the London School of Economics and a fluent English speaker, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi was once seen by many governments as the acceptable, Western-friendly face of Libya, and a possible heir apparent.

But when the uprising broke out in 2011 against Muammar Gaddafi’s long rule, Saif al-Islam immediately chose family and clan loyalties over his many friendships in the West, telling Reuters television: “We fight here in Libya; we die here in Libya.”

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If I'm not wrong Sirte is where Ghaddafi came from right, so that area is perhaps still pro Ghaddafi. Which means the votes on Haftars side will get split, if Tripoli still remembers the atrocities then they may vote on government or Ghaddafi.
Sirte . Bani walid . Sebha and whole south . And many people in the east . And many people and cities in the west .
He has great popularity. No doubt he will win easily
 

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He will take votes from Haftar, so that's good. He might not be as hostile to Turkish interests. The EU might support him because he might bring stability and is Western-educated and is not a wannabe dictator like Haftar. As for whether he's a good or bad choice for the people of Libya, I will leave that for the forum's Libyan commentators to decide. He might turn out less despotic than his father, especially since there's bound to be foreign pressure.
 

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He will take votes from Haftar, so that's good. He might not be as hostile to Turkish interests. The EU might support him because he might bring stability and is Western-educated and is not a wannabe dictator like Haftar. As for whether he's a good or bad choice for the people of Libya, I will leave that for the forum's Libyan commentators to decide. He might turn out less despotic than his father, especially since there's bound to be foreign pressure.
Am I pessimistic when I say that a new civil war will begin after the elections?
 

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He will take votes from Haftar, so that's good. He might not be as hostile to Turkish interests. The EU might support him because he might bring stability and is Western-educated and is not a wannabe dictator like Haftar. As for whether he's a good or bad choice for the people of Libya, I will leave that for the forum's Libyan commentators to decide. He might turn out less despotic than his father, especially since there's bound to be foreign pressure.
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi has a personal problem with the former emir of Qatar. for Turkey, he is not a threat at all, Turkey avoided him out of respect for the Qataris.
 

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What's going to happen is if the election turns out favourable to russia, france, the gulf states, basically the pillages of libya, then the results will stand. If the results turn out favourable to the other side, GNA, Turkey then the other side will start troubles up again in Syria.

Is basically a lose lose situation for Turkey, you win you lose, they win you lose.

Expecting warlords, thieves and liars to hold "fair" elections is mindless.
 

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Saif al-Islam Gaddafi has a personal problem with the former emir of Qatar. for Turkey, he is not a threat at all, Turkey avoided him out of respect for the Qataris.
Aw, c**p. Erdogan is slave to Qatar, let's hope he's out of power soon or Qatar's influence is diminished.
 

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Sounds good, but it’s been like 1 week or so since we heard UAE were going to visit Turkey. So could this be a peace offer or something to smoothe things a bit
 

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On the coast of Homs/Libya, a naval contact mine, which is thought to be from the Second World War, was destroyed by the Libyan Naval Forces Middle Sector Coast Guard Command, under the supervision of our SAS team.

As a result of the training and military consultancy support provided by Libya Task Group Command, underwater mine destruction was carried out for the first time by Libyan Naval Forces Command personnel.

 

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Very strange what is happening right now in Libya!!!
This guy in the middle is Muhammed Al-Hussan the military commander (GNA) of the successful operation in Gharyan. that operation was the reason for the defeat of Haftar in the west.
On the left is Sadam Haftar.
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