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[AWP]

No,Muslim brotherhood is the creme de la creme,right?


Iran always has seen us as the enemy and yeah Iran is a strong country but only on paper.
What has Iran done to defend Palestine or any other Muslim country?
Azerbaijan is our red line,nobody touches it,not because the current government but because of our people.
If it were up to the current government,Azerbaijan would be alone now.
Why dont you comment on why most Arab countries siding with Israel like the UAE and KSA?
We dont have to fight your wars for you,do we?
Be happy Erdogan is there because after Erdogan there wont be any more Muslim brotherhood from the Turkish side(looks that way).

I avoid talking about the Arabs because it’s a lost cause and time waste

And yes with Erdogan or someone else I think that Turkey shouldn’t involve with Azerbaijan war with with Iran in case they did it for Israel, not just for what would happen to Turkey during this war but for what will happen after. A weak Iran with revenge motives will have impacts for decades, one example is arming Kurdish groups on Iranian borders, that’s one of many

My issues with your comment that you always frame it within the Islamic or nationalist ideas, while my point is applicable on other conflicts like China vs Japan. Japan shouldn’t enter a conflict with China over Taiwan or the US

 

[Ryder]

I believe in a pan Oghuz Turkic brotherhood.

It sounds much more logical than trying to appeal to other Turkic groups.

Turkmenistan is fully on the Central Asian Bloc and is a weird dictatorship.

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

I doubt Turkiye is gonna directly confront ama Turkiye is gonna truly wage proxy war against Israel.

Israel has it coming. Russia and Iran are getting what they deserve now its zionist regime to taste its medicine. Ama Turkiye needs to play it smart.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I believe in a pan Oghuz Turkic brotherhood.

It sounds much more logical than trying to appeal to other Turkic groups.

Turkmenistan is fully on the Central Asian Bloc and is a weird dictatorship.

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

I doubt Turkiye is gonna directly confront ama Turkiye is gonna truly wage proxy war against Israel.

Israel has it coming. Russia and Iran are getting what they deserve now its zionist regime to taste its medicine. Ama Turkiye needs to play it smart.

I fully agree.

To be completely honest, Oghuz Turkic groups hold all the key areas for the Turkic World. Türkiye has sea access, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan would need to unite across northern Iran for a continuous Turkic world.

Kipchak Turkic countries need to dealbwith a triple threat of China, Russia and Islamic extremism. Kazakhstan can serve as an important location for strategic depth, but we're talking far in the future.

If Türkiye grabs northern Syria and Iraq, Iran would be fully encircled. I wonder how relations would change with Israel and Iran when Erdoğan leaves. You gotta remember that ties were good until the late 2000s. I just wonder, have they declared Türkiye a permanent threat? Will they consider a more nationalist government an even greater threat than the current Islamist one? Will this cause them to make concessions?

 

[Tabmachine]

Look, Armenia, with the support of Russia, occupied our territory. 25 years later, when Russian-Armenian relations were at their worst, we attacked and defeated the Armenian army. Because of Turkey's support, the Russians did not dare to start a war, and they had to watch from afar as their ally was being slaughtered.

Southern Azerbaijan is our long-standing national problem. But to join the US and Israel and attack a neighboring Muslim country? This, in my opinion, is the worst thing we can do. We are not strategic allies of either. If in 3-5 years Iran attacks us with its countless missiles, America and Israel are unlikely to come to our aid.

Based on what I've seen from your post history Iskander, I'm sure you yourself would be against the idea. Aliyev however I think would not really care about the Muslim country aspect (based on my current exposure). The practical considerations you mention though are simply fact, and will be a deterring factor. I don't think Aliyev is so foolish as to render your country a sacrificial lamb for the Israelis.

 

[TR_123456]

My issues with your comment that you always frame it within the Islamic or nationalist ideas, while my point is applicable on other conflicts like China vs Japan. Japan shouldn’t enter a conflict with China over Taiwan or the US

It is you(check your posts) who keeps bringing up the Nationalist Turks and the only counter to that is the ''Islamic Brotherhood''.

Look,my problem is that you call Iran a strong country,iran is nothing but a paperclip(Iran can prove me wrong).
Heard or seen anything from Iran after Israel finished Hezbollah?

 

[Tabmachine]

I fully agree.

To be completely honest, Oghuz Turkic groups hold all the key areas for the Turkic World. Türkiye has sea access, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan would need to unite across northern Iran for a continuous Turkic world.

Kipchak Turkic countries need to dealbwith a triple threat of China, Russia and Islamic extremism. Kazakhstan can serve as an important location for strategic depth, but we're talking far in the future.

If Türkiye grabs northern Syria and Iraq, Iran would be fully encircled. I wonder how relations would change with Israel and Iran when Erdoğan leaves.

The areas to the south of the caspian are the most densely populated within Iran, but if Azerbaijan was to offer those populations the possibility of a secular and representative government while under Azerbaijani military control (perhaps heavily administered by Iranian Azerbaijanis), it may be possible to sell them on the idea.

The economic benefits of that stable east-west connectivity would be immense.

If Iran got to that point though, the Americans/Israelis would certainly be a factor however, and would be eager to interrupt anything empowering the Turkish countries which would be next on the menu.

 

[TR_123456]

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

There is no act to get together.
Muslim countries cannot and will never unite,this is a fact.