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[AWP]

No,Muslim brotherhood is the creme de la creme,right?


Iran always has seen us as the enemy and yeah Iran is a strong country but only on paper.
What has Iran done to defend Palestine or any other Muslim country?
Azerbaijan is our red line,nobody touches it,not because the current government but because of our people.
If it were up to the current government,Azerbaijan would be alone now.
Why dont you comment on why most Arab countries siding with Israel like the UAE and KSA?
We dont have to fight your wars for you,do we?
Be happy Erdogan is there because after Erdogan there wont be any more Muslim brotherhood from the Turkish side(looks that way).

I avoid talking about the Arabs because it’s a lost cause and time waste

And yes with Erdogan or someone else I think that Turkey shouldn’t involve with Azerbaijan war with with Iran in case they did it for Israel, not just for what would happen to Turkey during this war but for what will happen after. A weak Iran with revenge motives will have impacts for decades, one example is arming Kurdish groups on Iranian borders, that’s one of many

My issues with your comment that you always frame it within the Islamic or nationalist ideas, while my point is applicable on other conflicts like China vs Japan. Japan shouldn’t enter a conflict with China over Taiwan or the US

 

[Ryder]

I believe in a pan Oghuz Turkic brotherhood.

It sounds much more logical than trying to appeal to other Turkic groups.

Turkmenistan is fully on the Central Asian Bloc and is a weird dictatorship.

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

I doubt Turkiye is gonna directly confront ama Turkiye is gonna truly wage proxy war against Israel.

Israel has it coming. Russia and Iran are getting what they deserve now its zionist regime to taste its medicine. Ama Turkiye needs to play it smart.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I believe in a pan Oghuz Turkic brotherhood.

It sounds much more logical than trying to appeal to other Turkic groups.

Turkmenistan is fully on the Central Asian Bloc and is a weird dictatorship.

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

I doubt Turkiye is gonna directly confront ama Turkiye is gonna truly wage proxy war against Israel.

Israel has it coming. Russia and Iran are getting what they deserve now its zionist regime to taste its medicine. Ama Turkiye needs to play it smart.

I fully agree.

To be completely honest, Oghuz Turkic groups hold all the key areas for the Turkic World. Türkiye has sea access, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan would need to unite across northern Iran for a continuous Turkic world.

Kipchak Turkic countries need to dealbwith a triple threat of China, Russia and Islamic extremism. Kazakhstan can serve as an important location for strategic depth, but we're talking far in the future.

If Türkiye grabs northern Syria and Iraq, Iran would be fully encircled. I wonder how relations would change with Israel and Iran when Erdoğan leaves. You gotta remember that ties were good until the late 2000s. I just wonder, have they declared Türkiye a permanent threat? Will they consider a more nationalist government an even greater threat than the current Islamist one? Will this cause them to make concessions?

 

[Tabmachine]

Look, Armenia, with the support of Russia, occupied our territory. 25 years later, when Russian-Armenian relations were at their worst, we attacked and defeated the Armenian army. Because of Turkey's support, the Russians did not dare to start a war, and they had to watch from afar as their ally was being slaughtered.

Southern Azerbaijan is our long-standing national problem. But to join the US and Israel and attack a neighboring Muslim country? This, in my opinion, is the worst thing we can do. We are not strategic allies of either. If in 3-5 years Iran attacks us with its countless missiles, America and Israel are unlikely to come to our aid.

Based on what I've seen from your post history Iskander, I'm sure you yourself would be against the idea. Aliyev however I think would not really care about the Muslim country aspect (based on my current exposure). The practical considerations you mention though are simply fact, and will be a deterring factor. I don't think Aliyev is so foolish as to render your country a sacrificial lamb for the Israelis.

 

[TR_123456]

My issues with your comment that you always frame it within the Islamic or nationalist ideas, while my point is applicable on other conflicts like China vs Japan. Japan shouldn’t enter a conflict with China over Taiwan or the US

It is you(check your posts) who keeps bringing up the Nationalist Turks and the only counter to that is the ''Islamic Brotherhood''.

Look,my problem is that you call Iran a strong country,iran is nothing but a paperclip(Iran can prove me wrong).
Heard or seen anything from Iran after Israel finished Hezbollah?

 

[Tabmachine]

I fully agree.

To be completely honest, Oghuz Turkic groups hold all the key areas for the Turkic World. Türkiye has sea access, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan would need to unite across northern Iran for a continuous Turkic world.

Kipchak Turkic countries need to dealbwith a triple threat of China, Russia and Islamic extremism. Kazakhstan can serve as an important location for strategic depth, but we're talking far in the future.

If Türkiye grabs northern Syria and Iraq, Iran would be fully encircled. I wonder how relations would change with Israel and Iran when Erdoğan leaves.

The areas to the south of the caspian are the most densely populated within Iran, but if Azerbaijan was to offer those populations the possibility of a secular and representative government while under Azerbaijani military control (perhaps heavily administered by Iranian Azerbaijanis), it may be possible to sell them on the idea.

The economic benefits of that stable east-west connectivity would be immense.

If Iran got to that point though, the Americans/Israelis would certainly be a factor however, and would be eager to interrupt anything empowering the Turkish countries which would be next on the menu.

 

[TR_123456]

Honestly Turks, Arabs and Muslims all over the world need to get their act together.

There is no act to get together.
Muslim countries cannot and will never unite,this is a fact.

 

[Ryder]

There is no act to get together.
Muslim countries cannot and will never unite,this is a fact.

I know this they wont unite. We all know this but they should get their act together if they dont want to be another Gaza.

 

[Ryder]

The areas to the south of the caspian are the most densely populated within Iran, but if Azerbaijan was to offer those populations the possibility of a secular and representative government while under Azerbaijani military control (perhaps heavily administered by Iranian Azerbaijanis), it may be possible to sell them on the idea.

The economic benefits of that stable east-west connectivity would be immense.

If Iran got to that point though, the Americans/Israelis would certainly be a factor however, and would be eager to interrupt anything empowering the Turkish countries which would be next on the menu.

I doubt Azerbaijan would support war against Iran. If Iran Collapses. Azerbaijan is perfectly fine in taking South Azerbaijan.

Lets be honest here i dont think USA and Israel would tolerate a country like Azerbaijan taking care of its own interests.

Its all about balkanising and keeping the region in flames.

As much as I would want Russia and Iran to collapse because they are Turkiye's historical enemies. Their collapse can also be dangerous.

Future of Iran is not to collapse but for it to have Turks ruling the country like in the old days.

Russia would be hella dangerous because people said it would be a true battle royale with every federation having nukes lets not forget the various factions for control. We seen how deadly the Russian civil war was after ww1.

 

[Lool]

Excellent analysis by Clash Report
If the post is true, then it seems that at the very least there are some within the AKP that understands the value of T4 and Palmyra which are intertwined with Syria's security and the fact that Israel wants Syria destabilised to create more terror risks for Turkey amd create more refugee waves towards Turkey, as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908188505257160788

The problem here is that till now, Turkish response have been rather weak tbh with Israel winning the first round with a big margin. Is it just the preparation phase or an eternal Israeli victory? Time will tell

 

[No Name]

Excellent analysis by Clash Report
If the post is true, then it seems that at the very least there are some within the AKP that understands the value of T4 and Palmyra which are intertwined with Syria's security and the fact that Israel wants Syria destabilised to create more terror risks for Turkey amd create more refugee waves towards Turkey, as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908188505257160788

The problem here is that till now, Turkish response have been rather weak tbh with Israel winning the first round with a big margin. Is it just the preparation phase or an eternal Israeli victory? Time will tell

it not really an eternal victory since the US has fucked itself on the global stage and a weaker US means weaker Israel in the long run plus by 2030 a lot of the boomers that support israel in the US are going to die out and the younger generation isn't going to support them like the boomers will.

Turkey on the other hand will greatly lessen the military tech gap by then that is why israel is freeking out today and is being extreme it wants a conflict today not tomorrow.

In other words an eternal israeli victory is impossible as long as AKP doesn't plunge Turkey into a civil war.

 

[Ryder]

Excellent analysis by Clash Report
If the post is true, then it seems that at the very least there are some within the AKP that understands the value of T4 and Palmyra which are intertwined with Syria's security and the fact that Israel wants Syria destabilised to create more terror risks for Turkey amd create more refugee waves towards Turkey, as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908188505257160788

The problem here is that till now, Turkish response have been rather weak tbh with Israel winning the first round with a big margin. Is it just the preparation phase or an eternal Israeli victory? Time will tell

Im happy no Turks got killed.

Those zionists terrorists are gonna try it again.

Turkiye should build bases close its border than slowly expand it. If Israelis want to violate Turkish airspace.

Give them the Russian treatment in 2015.

 

[Ryder]

There is no act to get together.
Muslim countries cannot and will never unite,this is a fact.

Indeed man lets not forget that Israel is being helped by the UAE and Israel is helping the UAE.

So much for Ummah solidarity.

It was a mistake to even sell equipment after Turkiye and UAE put their differences behind. Uae used it just to bide its time before striking in Sudan and in Somalia. UAE wants Somailand as a base.

Middle East has a new problem. You have Israel and the UAE against Turkiye. This time they are working in the shadows.

 

[Iskander]

Indeed man lets not forget that Israel is being helped by the UAE and Israel is helping the UAE.

So much for Ummah solidarity.

It was a mistake to even sell equipment after Turkiye and UAE put their differences behind. Uae used it just to bide its time before striking in Sudan and in Somalia. UAE wants Somailand as a base.

Middle East has a new problem. You have Israel and the UAE against Turkiye. This time they are working in the shadows.

A few weeks ago, the US and Israeli air forces conducted exercises in Saudi Arabian airspace, practicing strikes on Iran.

Which country has been responsible for Saudi Arabia's defense since the Cold War?
The United States of America!
Where do millions of Muslims of the Ummah travel each year to perform the Hajj?
To Saudi Arabia.
Where did US President Trump make his first foreign visit in his last term?
To Saudi Arabia.
Where does the US President plan to make his first foreign visit?
To Saudi Arabia.
Who is Saudi Arabia's biggest ally?
The USA!
Which country is the US's closest ally?
Israel!
A vicious circlе

The question "Are Saudi Arabia and Israel allies?" is redundant.

 

[mTT]

AA captured the T4 airbase in Syria that was attacked by Israel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908431516822020570

Anadolu Ajansı

Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Tonyukuk]

Random comment, but very true

"You destroyed the Assad regime and made us neighbors with Israel"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908415637451382967

What a ridiculous situation

@Bogeyman

Do strategic masters like yourself have anything to say about this? Is this 7D chess, am I missing something?

 

[YeşilVatan]

Random comment, but very true

"You destroyed the Assad regime and made us neighbors with Israel"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908415637451382967

What a ridiculous situation

@Bogeyman

Do strategic masters like yourself have anything to say about this? Is this 7D chess, am I missing something?

Assad regime was an awoved enemy of all Turks. I do not miss that monster one bit. Anyone who thinks his departure is anything but good fot Turkey has lost the plot. Or, those people are afflicted with a sinister streak of secterianism as I have been finding out more and more.

It is far more understandable to call for a more intelligent and measured approach to the issue of Israel, but I don't understand this "Assad was better" talk. He wasn't. If anything, he didn't suffer enough for the harm he has done to Turks.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Assad regime was an awoved enemy of all Turks. I do not miss that monster one bit. Anyone who thinks his departure is anything but good fot Turkey has lost the plot. Or, those people are afflicted with a sinister streak of secterianism as I have been finding out more and more.

It is far more understandable to call for a more intelligent and measured approach to the issue of Israel, but I don't understand this "Assad was better" talk. He wasn't. If anything, he didn't suffer enough for the harm he has done to Turks.

That's missing the point. Assad may have been a piece of shit, but he was weak.

Now Israel is seeping into Syria and nothing can stop them in the short term. A weak enemy has been replaced with a strong one, and there is absolutely no plan to stop them.

 

[YeşilVatan]

That's missing the point. Assad may have been a piece of shit, but he was weak.

Now Israel is seeping into Syria and nothing can stop them in the short term. A weak enemy has been replaced with a strong one, and there is absolutely no plan to stop them.

I'm afraid that's simply a cope. When Assad was present, we had;

• PKK infiltrations from north of halab
• Russian presence
• Iranian presence
• PKK presence backed by USA

Now we have;

• PKK presence backed by USA
• Israelis near Damascus

You can't say that's a losing situation. We're still knee deep in shit, but it doesn't come up to our neck anymore.

 

[Lool]

Random comment, but very true

"You destroyed the Assad regime and made us neighbors with Israel"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908415637451382967

What a ridiculous situation

@Bogeyman

Do strategic masters like yourself have anything to say about this? Is this 7D chess, am I missing something?

This post shows how short-sighted that person is tbh
Bro, you need to understand that Assad was, is, and will be one of the biggest Israeli croonies that ever existed
It is his father, when he was the Defence Minister, that gave a portion of the Golan heights (his own country) to Israel in return for US support to make him the president

It is the Assad family that protected the PKK, and it was them that gave Iran the green light to intentionally hit the Syrians in Idlib to force a new migration wave to Turkey

Have you asked yourself why on earth is the Israeli jets destroying Syrian army weapons such as tanks, radars, and jets now and not during the Assad era? Havent you asked yourself how on earth did Israel know the secret warehouses that stored such weaponry? It is because such weapons were intended to be used against Turkey by the Assad regime as a proxy of several nations like Israel, Iran, US, and Russia but now that a pro-Turkey govt is in place, Israel is destroying such weaponry

This isnt 7D chess, it is just that Assad needed to go, and now Israel is trying its best to prevent the Syrians from returning to their country and rebuilding it because there will come a day when the Syrians will ask for their annexed territory and Israel doesnt want a strong Syria around its borders

In other words, Israel was a neighbour to Turkey from the very beginning but just in the form of a proxy called Assad. Now Turkey is a neighbour to Israel in the form of a proxy called Al-Joulani.
Spot the difference?

The current situation is bad but it slowly tilted to Turkey's favour and Israel, just like Turkey, now feels threatened and are annexing lands just like Turkey did in the past but without Western condemnation