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Angry Turk !!!

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Well, things are relative, Maybe if we had a capable administration in the last 20 years, it would now be way better. It is really a question of how much impact the league we are in having to achieve our goals. Are we able to impose our will in Mavi Vatan? How about Syria? So we are still ineffective. It is always too little, and too late….
I think Türkiye is overall spreading too thin, we're in too many other countries problems involved. If these fuckers want to kill each other, why give a shit. I couldn't care less about anyone who isn't a Turk nation or very close at least.

First of all, we are not a Superpower. We do not have the population, economy or the technology for that. So, instead of trying to stick our nose in every fucking problem of other countries who are failed nations anyway, focus on the problems inside and in front of us.

That will benefit the Country more.
 

AlperTunga

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After the mistake during Arab Spring in Syria, now it is difficult not to get involved there. But I agree with you in a sense. We should have pushed for technological advancement, military independence, and trade relations with other countries. We should have never been vocal about neo ottomanism, Blue Land doctrine, not follow an islamist agenda, not threaten Europe, and Israel. In Gazza we should have only highlighted humanitary aspect and never support Hamas. In such a scenario, we would have all the weapons we want from US and we would easily have per capita GNP 30000$ now. US and Europe would be using us as a partial China replacement to produce goods and even weapons for them. Of course, to get real rich we need to increase our sphere of influence but we could have done this in a low key manner. Gradually, though they would have accepted us as another main power. Just like they had to accept China.
 
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AlperTunga

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Indeed, our early involvement in Libya, Syria, Somalie etc. did not bring any benefit to us. In Libya we were not strong enough to push back Russia and Egypt, in Somalia we are fighting with UAE. We should get involved in such places if we are strong enough and then push to the very end and not be satisfied with half done things. That is, once we get in, even Russia should know, ok that place is now gone.
 

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